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Rewatch Australia C3: Volcano - Sat 20th June
Obsidian
mrsbookmark wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

There we are. Three major battles, but between whom?


Theories:

Servalan's people vs. Presidential loyalists (started from Star One)

More than likely at least one colony that saw it as a chance to break away and the Federation could no longer keep control. Maybe a few of them challenged.

Space Command vs. Earth (since they seemed to be different entities)

Personally, I wouldn't mind a great mutoid rebellion.


I definitely see Servalan as operating separately from the rest of Space Command. The poor old mutoids don't look likely to rebel yet.
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trevor travis
Travisina wrote:

mrsbookmark wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

There we are. Three major battles, but between whom?


Theories:

Servalan's people vs. Presidential loyalists (started from Star One)

More than likely at least one colony that saw it as a chance to break away and the Federation could no longer keep control. Maybe a few of them challenged.

Space Command vs. Earth (since they seemed to be different entities)

Personally, I wouldn't mind a great mutoid rebellion.

Fantastic ideas!


It is! Mutoid Lives Matter!
 
Travisina
trevor travis wrote:

How much of a monster is Hower?

He operates on his people at birth and then kills his own son. He's no pacifist. He's as much as a dictator as Servalan.

And when he realises he's going to lose power, he kills himself. Typical dictator behaviour.

Very interesting character, played by the brilliant Michael Gough.

He doesn't just kill himself, he kills the entire population of the planet. He's even worse than Servalan. But yeah, interesting - and deeply unlikeable - character
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Obsidian
trevor travis wrote:

How much of a monster is Hower?

He operates on his people at birth and then kills his own son. He's no pacifist. He's as much as a dictator as Servalan.

And when he realises he's going to lose power, he kills himself. Typical dictator behaviour.

Very interesting character, played by the brilliant Michael Gough.


Totally, but that's the paradox of a lot of pacifism. People fight for peace. Never makes sense. Hower is totally vile.
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Travisina
mrsbookmark wrote:

Travisina wrote:

trevor travis wrote:

Servie talking "until MY rule of law is restored". Is there still a civil war going on even now?

Maybe. President Hugh Fraser hasn't given up after being deposed in Star One.


Isn't there a Big Finish about that? I have to re listen.

There are a load of eps featuring the President, and a whole series (Crossfire) about the Presidential War, which is Servalan -v- President, with the Liberator crew having to choose which side they're on...
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Travisina
Interesting that Dayna can hear Cally's telepathy, but Tarrant can't.
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Obsidian
Travisina wrote:

mrsbookmark wrote:

Travisina wrote:

trevor travis wrote:

Servie talking "until MY rule of law is restored". Is there still a civil war going on even now?

Maybe. President Hugh Fraser hasn't given up after being deposed in Star One.


Isn't there a Big Finish about that? I have to re listen.

There are a load of eps featuring the President, and a whole series (Crossfire) about the Presidential War, which is Servalan -v- President, with the Liberator crew having to choose which side they're on...


That's one war. There'd have to be loads of smaller conflicts.
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trevor travis
Obsidian wrote:

trevor travis wrote:

How much of a monster is Hower?

He operates on his people at birth and then kills his own son. He's no pacifist. He's as much as a dictator as Servalan.

And when he realises he's going to lose power, he kills himself. Typical dictator behaviour.

Very interesting character, played by the brilliant Michael Gough.


Totally, but that's the paradox of a lot of pacifism. People fight for peace. Never makes sense. Hower is totally vile.


Hower is a dictator not a pacifist. His people are only pacifist because he operates on them.
 
meegat39
Obsidian wrote:

trevor travis wrote:

How much of a monster is Hower?

He operates on his people at birth and then kills his own son. He's no pacifist. He's as much as a dictator as Servalan.

And when he realises he's going to lose power, he kills himself. Typical dictator behaviour.

Very interesting character, played by the brilliant Michael Gough.


Totally, but that's the paradox of a lot of pacifism. People fight for peace. Never makes sense. Hower is totally vile.


And Blake a freedom fighter. I wonder if Blake had not made it his mission to be such a thorn in the federation's side, whether they would have continued to pursue him so rigorously
Edited by meegat39 on 20 June 2020 10:50:33
GARETH THOMAS: Paul is a very generous man, as a human being and as an actor. The programme couldnít have been made if we hadnít got on. Our working relationship was magic.
 
mrsbookmark
meegat39 wrote:

Avon looks devilishly handsome after his nap...


Yes, he does.
 
Obsidian
Travisina wrote:

Interesting that Dayna can hear Cally's telepathy, but Tarrant can't.


AND Cally comes in loud and clear.
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trevor travis
Obsidian wrote:

Travisina wrote:

mrsbookmark wrote:

Travisina wrote:

trevor travis wrote:

Servie talking "until MY rule of law is restored". Is there still a civil war going on even now?

Maybe. President Hugh Fraser hasn't given up after being deposed in Star One.


Isn't there a Big Finish about that? I have to re listen.

There are a load of eps featuring the President, and a whole series (Crossfire) about the Presidential War, which is Servalan -v- President, with the Liberator crew having to choose which side they're on...


That's one war. There'd have to be loads of smaller conflicts.


Yes, dotted throughout space, as referecned in other episodes.
 
mrsbookmark
Obsidian wrote:

Travisina wrote:

Interesting that Dayna can hear Cally's telepathy, but Tarrant can't.


AND Cally comes in loud and clear.


Tarrant doesn't listen to anyone but himself, even telepathically.
 
Travisina
mrsbookmark wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

Travisina wrote:

Interesting that Dayna can hear Cally's telepathy, but Tarrant can't.


AND Cally comes in loud and clear.


Tarrant doesn't listen to anyone but himself, even telepathically.

So true! Grin
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Obsidian
meegat39 wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

trevor travis wrote:

How much of a monster is Hower?

He operates on his people at birth and then kills his own son. He's no pacifist. He's as much as a dictator as Servalan.

And when he realises he's going to lose power, he kills himself. Typical dictator behaviour.

Very interesting character, played by the brilliant Michael Gough.


Totally, but that's the paradox of a lot of pacifism. People fight for peace. Never makes sense. Hower is totally vile.


And Blake a freedom fighter. I wonder if Blake had not made it his mission to be such a thorn in the federation's side, whether they would have continued to pursue him so rigorously


No, I don't think they would have. It's that paradox that Avon lambasts Blake with before Star One.

And on losing? I'm with Vila. His philosophy is sounder and more consistent.
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trevor travis
Vila's right - Cally is talking mystical rubbish! The Pyroans didn't win at all. They got wiped out by their dictator leader.
 
Travisina
I don't usually like this ep, but watching it in your company has been great, and I've really enjoyed it!
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meegat39
I agree with Vila! Think I'll take losing too...
GARETH THOMAS: Paul is a very generous man, as a human being and as an actor. The programme couldnít have been made if we hadnít got on. Our working relationship was magic.
 
mrsbookmark
Great episode!
 
Obsidian
trevor travis wrote:

Vila's right - Cally is talking mystical rubbish! The Pyroans didn't win at all. They got wiped out by their dictator leader.


Wasn't going to say that about Cally, but Vila is, indeed, right.
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