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dodgyville
This is a pretty epic episode really. Federation council politics, a floating Space City, a mafia, druggies, a desert planet, weird alien fungi, a rogue super computer, a trans-dimensional alien taking possession of the local telepath, a psychedelic battle of the minds, the Liberator out-of-control...

The production values are very high too (well...)
 
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M1795537OCVirn

Obsidian wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Blake knows all about cacti? Ancient Earth fauna must have been one of his hobbies, when he wasn't killing people. So Blake knows everything...and nothing. Isn't that the definition of a fool?


They don't know that they fauna yet, more flora. Mescaline was a bit of a drug of choice amongst groovy people on the USA west coast a little earlier than this was made.


Basically, he used the only thing most of the audience knew of that grew in deserts, then.
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Obsidian

dodgyville wrote:

Jan Chappell does the most amazing run down the side of the quarry I've ever seen at about 38m mark. Quite a tall heel and flowy robes down a very uneven and steep embankment but as sure footage as a mountain goat! Amazing she survived really


She's evidently good at it, as we see later in Star One, when she runs up the side of a quarry with no difficulty. Even at that young age I'd have been puffing badly.
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dodgyville
Wow, they made Chappell run UP the quarry wall too at about 45m. What a trooper, what balance!
 
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M1795537OCVirn
I wonder which ABBA Tyce is painting?
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Obsidian

dodgyville wrote:

This is a pretty epic episode really. Federation council politics, a floating Space City, a mafia, druggies, a desert planet, weird alien fungi, a rogue super computer, a trans-dimensional alien taking possession of the local telepath, a psychedelic battle of the minds, the Liberator out-of-control...

The production values are very high too (well...)


It is! Chris Boucher's academic mind taking flight. It always seem like a much longer episode because it's so stuffed full.
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M1795537OCVirn

dodgyville wrote:

Wow, they made Chappell run UP the quarry wall too at about 45m. What a trooper, what balance!


They all had plenty of practice charging about in quarries. Perhaps quarry-running could be a new sport.
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AnneArthur
Gan being unusually wise and empathetic here - I like this version of him. It's a pity the character is so inconsistent.
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Blake knows all about cacti? Ancient Earth fauna must have been one of his hobbies, when he wasn't killing people. So Blake knows everything...and nothing. Isn't that the definition of a fool?


They don't know that they fauna yet, more flora. Mescaline was a bit of a drug of choice amongst groovy people on the USA west coast a little earlier than this was made.


Basically, he used the only thing most of the audience knew of that grew in deserts, then.


Some people. The groovy people. I don't know if anyone's tried snorting the plants that grow in the desert here, yet.
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Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

dodgyville wrote:

Wow, they made Chappell run UP the quarry wall too at about 45m. What a trooper, what balance!


They all had plenty of practice charging about in quarries. Perhaps quarry-running could be a new sport.


It could be what I need to help shed those extra kilos.
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Obsidian
Actually, maybe Chris Boucher was snorting something really trippy to think up some of this.
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M1795537OCVirn
And Boucher even tries to answer all the questions we'd ask!
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dodgyville

Obsidian wrote:

Actually, maybe Chris Boucher was snorting something really trippy to think up some of this.


For a show that so often bridges 1970s into the 1980s scifi for me, this is a solid slice of 1970s sci-fi, nothing 1980s about it!
 
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Obsidian
In 12thofNever's fic, 'Tidal(Being a Ballard of Avon and Cally)', Cally's moondisk get's a bit of a starring roll. Another interesting story.
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dodgyville

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

And Boucher even tries to answer all the questions we'd ask!


It's kind of rushed but Avon and Blake's little convo about the Terra Nostra just being part of the Federation plotting is quite effective and makes sense... not all the endings can claim the same lol
 
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dodgyville wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

Actually, maybe Chris Boucher was snorting something really trippy to think up some of this.


For a show that so often bridges 1970s into the 1980s scifi for me, this is a solid slice of 1970s sci-fi, nothing 1980s about it!


Yes, very 70s., but then it was 70s politics that helped prompt it and the references are very 70s all through, even into Series D.
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M1795537OCVirn

Obsidian wrote:

dodgyville wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

Actually, maybe Chris Boucher was snorting something really trippy to think up some of this.


For a show that so often bridges 1970s into the 1980s scifi for me, this is a solid slice of 1970s sci-fi, nothing 1980s about it!


Yes, very 70s., but then it was 70s politics that helped prompt it and the references are very 70s all through, even into Series D.


The 80's hadn't really got going by the time they took B7 away from us.
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AnneArthur
OK - that was enjoyable. Next week we have another interesting idea left hanging - a clone of Blake.
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

And Boucher even tries to answer all the questions we'd ask!


CB knew that you have say what you're going to say, say it, then say why you said it. Good man. Almost all my favourite episodes are CB's.
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dodgyville
Good night everyone!
 
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AnneArthur wrote:

OK - that was enjoyable. Next week we have another interesting idea left hanging - a clone of Blake.


An incredibly polite one at that. Hope it found whatever passes for peace among clones. OK, See you next time, everyone. Good to have you with us, Dodgyville. It's been a while.
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Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

dodgyville wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

Actually, maybe Chris Boucher was snorting something really trippy to think up some of this.


For a show that so often bridges 1970s into the 1980s scifi for me, this is a solid slice of 1970s sci-fi, nothing 1980s about it!


Yes, very 70s., but then it was 70s politics that helped prompt it and the references are very 70s all through, even into Series D.


The 80's hadn't really got going by the time they took B7 away from us.


Barely, though by the end there's a bit of 80s' indulgence.
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Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

OK - that was enjoyable. Next week we have another interesting idea left hanging - a clone of Blake.


An incredibly polite one at that. Hope it found whatever passes for peace among clones. OK, See you next time, everyone. Good to have you with us, Dodgyville. It's been a while.


I really hope your little cat comes home MsVirn. I have my fingers and toes crossed for you. As long as you know what's happened, that's the main thing. Even so...

Take care.
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Obsidian
Well everyone, I'd better head off as well. I wonder what surprises await us next week?

Have a good one. Glad to have you back dodgyville. See you AnneA. Off to hug my cat, I think...
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AnneArthur
Goodnight/morning everyone. Have a good week. I do hope you find your cat, Ms Virn.
 
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