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Taiellin

AnneArthur wrote:

Joe Dredd wrote:

Tyce wrote:

Hi JD, OMGosh. You are one of the people Sally, Brian and Toby were talking about.


What were they saying?


It's apparently the second least liked episode (after Animals).


Well, I think that this episode is fine. I also like Animals.
My least favourite episode is definitely Voice from the Past.
 
Tyce

Joe Dredd wrote:

Tyce wrote:

Hi JD, OMGosh. You are one of the people Sally, Brian and Toby were talking about.


What were they saying?

In the commentary for this episode on Blu-ray Sally, Brian and Toby Hadoke say that this is the second most disliked episode by Blake’s Seven fans. I was very shocked because I really love it.
Edited by Tyce on 20-06-2026 10:56
 
Obsidian

Joe Dredd wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

I'm glad you told me he was Avon as I wouldn't have known (but then it's hard to imagine the real Avon dancing like that. Grin)


I'm very impressed by the figurine made by Totter's Yard Customs. It is a very detailed figure, though small. From most angles the face is Paul Darrow to a tee. It really is amazing.


AnneArthur wrote:

You are obviously representative of the majority in not liking this episode. Interesting - for me it's not an absolute favourite, but comfortably in the top half of the series.


I'm generally not a fan of SF stories involving medievel societies, and there's something about this one that grates. Having one of the characters called Rod also seems out of place (as does having a Don in 'Sand'Wink.


Like all the mush on Netflix for the last decade. Absolute schlock, all of it.
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intergalactic
Taiellin, see you are a translator, do you know any audio translated in Russian ver. of B7?
 
Joe Dredd

intergalactic wrote:

You may choose 1080p from settings.


Thanks intergalactic. I'll look out for it.
 
Obsidian

Taiellin wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

Joe Dredd wrote:

Tyce wrote:

Hi JD, OMGosh. You are one of the people Sally, Brian and Toby were talking about.


What were they saying?


It's apparently the second least liked episode (after Animals).


Well, I think that this episode is fine. I also like Animals.
My least favourite episode is definitely Voice from the Past.


I'd probably swap them – just. This episode is fine. Plus, I get enjoyment from spotting all the ethnographic items they've managed to stuff into the scenery.
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Joe Dredd

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

As I see it, most of the BF issues are pot-boilers to keep up the interest, so they end up being all-action shoot-em-ups written to a formula by boys.


And, unfortunately, boys who wish they were writing Star Trek instead.
 
Obsidian

Joe Dredd wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Are you sure all the figures do that?


The figure is Avon in a static pose. It has no moving parts. I used an app called Nauk Nauk to see how well it could retain the likeness. It mostly works, though you can't really see how well given Youtube has turned the video quality to mush. Perhaps there's a setting somewhere...


What do the kids think?
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Taiellin

intergalactic wrote:

Taiellin, see you are a translator, do you know any audio translated in Russian ver. of B7?


Unfortunately. B7 is not really popular in our country. We have only subtitles for tv series, a bunch of videos made by the fans and a few stories made by Russian authors. The first season was dubbed, but it was hard to find.
 
Obsidian

Joe Dredd wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

As I see it, most of the BF issues are pot-boilers to keep up the interest, so they end up being all-action shoot-em-ups written to a formula by boys.


And, unfortunately, boys who wish they were writing Star Trek instead.


And should have been writing Star Trek instead. Star Blech, as Mad Magazine called it back in the 60s. I agreed even then, as a kid.
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AnneArthur

Joe Dredd wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

As I see it, most of the BF issues are pot-boilers to keep up the interest, so they end up being all-action shoot-em-ups written to a formula by boys.


And, unfortunately, boys who wish they were writing Star Trek instead.


The impression I got was that a lot of them were Whovians who had got into Blake's 7 that way.
 
Obsidian

Taiellin wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Taiellin, see you are a translator, do you know any audio translated in Russian ver. of B7?


Unfortunately. B7 is not really popular in our country. We have only subtitles for tv series, a bunch of videos made by the fans and a few stories made by Russian authors. The first season was dubbed, but it was hard to find.


How did you become interested in it? Thrilled that you did BTW.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote:

Joe Dredd wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

As I see it, most of the BF issues are pot-boilers to keep up the interest, so they end up being all-action shoot-em-ups written to a formula by boys.


And, unfortunately, boys who wish they were writing Star Trek instead.


The impression I got was that a lot of them were Whovians who had got into Blake's 7 that way.


Stands to reason.
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AnneArthur

Joe Dredd wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

I'm glad you told me he was Avon as I wouldn't have known (but then it's hard to imagine the real Avon dancing like that. Grin)


I'm very impressed by the figurine made by Totter's Yard Customs. It is a very detailed figure, though small. From most angles the face is Paul Darrow to a tee. It really is amazing.


AnneArthur wrote:

You are obviously representative of the majority in not liking this episode. Interesting - for me it's not an absolute favourite, but comfortably in the top half of the series.


I'm generally not a fan of SF stories involving medievel societies, and there's something about this one that grates. Having one of the characters called Rod also seems out of place (as does having a Don in 'Sand'Wink.


It's Gola that always gets me - I'm old enough to remember when it was a brand of sportswear. Like having a character called Adidas or Nike!
 
Joe Dredd

Obsidian wrote:

Moustaches. Hope this works.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/277515515540

GBP 500!


It says it came from Gary Holland. Does anyone know what has happened to Gary's costume collection?
 
intergalactic

Taiellin wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Taiellin, see you are a translator, do you know any audio translated in Russian ver. of B7?


Unfortunately. B7 is not really popular in our country. We have only subtitles for tv series, a bunch of videos made by the fans and a few stories made by Russian authors. The first season was dubbed, but it was hard to find.

Pity, i have a friend which can't see very well, and can't read subs. but understands Russian.
By the way I have Russian subs. - a friend of mine(a russian girl) translated it years ago.
 
Tyce
Okay, I’m gonna head off now. Have a good week everyone see you next Saturday.
 
Joe Dredd

AnneArthur wrote:

Like having a character called Adidas or Nike!


Well, I suppose there is a character called Nike...!
 
Joe Dredd
Did you watch the episode on blu-ray, Obsidian? What did you think of it?
 
Taiellin

Obsidian wrote:

Taiellin wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Taiellin, see you are a translator, do you know any audio translated in Russian ver. of B7?


Unfortunately. B7 is not really popular in our country. We have only subtitles for tv series, a bunch of videos made by the fans and a few stories made by Russian authors. The first season was dubbed, but it was hard to find.


How did you become interested in it? Thrilled that you did BTW.


Well. after thay started broadcasting Doctor Who again, a lot of people got interested in classic series and found other tv series made by Terry Nation. They started to write about B7 in Doctor Who communities and made posts in the Internet. When I found it, I was interested.
Edited by Taiellin on 20-06-2026 11:08
 
Obsidian

Joe Dredd wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

Moustaches. Hope this works.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/277515515540

GBP 500!


It says it came from Gary Holland. Does anyone know what has happened to Gary's costume collection?


No. There was a lot of discussion about it. Others closer to the heart of things might know.

Check out the other items on offer. All overpriced but interesting in their own ways.
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intergalactic
I like this episode, find it very original, but I'm not a cinema expert as the most of you, actually, I don’t like movies at all - B7 is a big exception.
 
AnneArthur
A quick google, and apparently Gola sportswear is still a Thing - but less popular than it was.
 
Taiellin

intergalactic wrote:

Taiellin wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Taiellin, see you are a translator, do you know any audio translated in Russian ver. of B7?


Unfortunately. B7 is not really popular in our country. We have only subtitles for tv series, a bunch of videos made by the fans and a few stories made by Russian authors. The first season was dubbed, but it was hard to find.

Pity, i have a friend which can't see very well, and can't read subs. but understands Russian.
By the way I have Russian subs. - a friend of mine(a russian girl) translated it years ago.


You have interesting connections, Intergalactic.
 
Obsidian

Taiellin wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

Taiellin wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Taiellin, see you are a translator, do you know any audio translated in Russian ver. of B7?


Unfortunately. B7 is not really popular in our country. We have only subtitles for tv series, a bunch of videos made by the fans and a few stories made by Russian authors. The first season was dubbed, but it was hard to find.


How did you become interested in it? Thrilled that you did BTW.


Well. after thay started broadcasting Doctor Who again, a lot of people got interested in classic series and found other tv series made by Terry Nation. They started to write about B7 in Doctor Who communities and made posts in the Internet. When I found it, I was interested.


And then you did a lot of catching up. That's great. Glad you're here.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
Taiellin

Obsidian wrote:

Taiellin wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

Taiellin wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Taiellin, see you are a translator, do you know any audio translated in Russian ver. of B7?


Unfortunately. B7 is not really popular in our country. We have only subtitles for tv series, a bunch of videos made by the fans and a few stories made by Russian authors. The first season was dubbed, but it was hard to find.


How did you become interested in it? Thrilled that you did BTW.


Well. after thay started broadcasting Doctor Who again, a lot of people got interested in classic series and found other tv series made by Terry Nation. They started to write about B7 in Doctor Who communities and made posts in the Internet. When I found it, I was interested.


And then you did a lot of catching up. That's great. Glad you're here.


Thanks.
 
AnneArthur

Taiellin wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

Taiellin wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Taiellin, see you are a translator, do you know any audio translated in Russian ver. of B7?


Unfortunately. B7 is not really popular in our country. We have only subtitles for tv series, a bunch of videos made by the fans and a few stories made by Russian authors. The first season was dubbed, but it was hard to find.


How did you become interested in it? Thrilled that you did BTW.


Well. after thay started broadcasting Doctor Who again, a lot of people got interested in classic series and found other tv series made by Terry Nation. They started to write about B7 in Doctor Who communities and made posts in the Internet. When I found it, I was interested.


Grin That's nice to hear.
 
intergalactic

Taiellin wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Taiellin wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Taiellin, see you are a translator, do you know any audio translated in Russian ver. of B7?


Unfortunately. B7 is not really popular in our country. We have only subtitles for tv series, a bunch of videos made by the fans and a few stories made by Russian authors. The first season was dubbed, but it was hard to find.

Pity, i have a friend which can't see very well, and can't read subs. but understands Russian.
By the way I have Russian subs. - a friend of mine(a russian girl) translated it years ago.


You have interesting connections, Intergalactic.


Worked for a while in Russia, even know a few Russian words Wink
 
Obsidian

Joe Dredd wrote:

Did you watch the episode on blu-ray, Obsidian? What did you think of it?


I just bought the series today Joe, so I have to go watch it on the blu-ray player (I use an external drive for standard viewing) and watch the interview with Sally Knyvette to see what this stuff is about this episode being disliked. Maybe it was the chicken...
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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Taiellin

intergalactic wrote:

Taiellin wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Taiellin wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Taiellin, see you are a translator, do you know any audio translated in Russian ver. of B7?


Unfortunately. B7 is not really popular in our country. We have only subtitles for tv series, a bunch of videos made by the fans and a few stories made by Russian authors. The first season was dubbed, but it was hard to find.

Pity, i have a friend which can't see very well, and can't read subs. but understands Russian.
By the way I have Russian subs. - a friend of mine(a russian girl) translated it years ago.


You have interesting connections, Intergalactic.


Worked for a while in Russia, even know a few Russian words Wink


Wow!
 
intergalactic
One day I should try watching Dr. Who.
 
AnneArthur
As a medievalist I don't object to the 'medieval society' thing - the Goths are so obviously the descendants of people who decided to go pre-industrial, and were cos-playing a 'tribal', 'dark ages' society that it's quite amusing. It would not be hard to find people who idealize such societies today, I think - and who caricature them in much the same way that the Goths do.
 
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote:

A quick google, and apparently Gola sportswear is still a Thing - but less popular than it was.


Oh yes. Must look through some of my old magazines (knitting, sewing) and see if it's advertised. It seems familiar. They definitely have the Kickers adverts for Vila's shoes.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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intergalactic

Taiellin wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Taiellin wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Taiellin wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Taiellin, see you are a translator, do you know any audio translated in Russian ver. of B7?


Unfortunately. B7 is not really popular in our country. We have only subtitles for tv series, a bunch of videos made by the fans and a few stories made by Russian authors. The first season was dubbed, but it was hard to find.

Pity, i have a friend which can't see very well, and can't read subs. but understands Russian.
By the way I have Russian subs. - a friend of mine(a russian girl) translated it years ago.


You have interesting connections, Intergalactic.


Worked for a while in Russia, even know a few Russian words Wink


Wow!

Like: Здравствуйте красотка! Wink
 
Taiellin

intergalactic wrote:

One day I should try watching Dr. Who.


You have many wonderful discoveries ahead of you.
 
AnneArthur
Thanks for an interesting discussion, folks - and see you next week, I hope.
 
Obsidian

intergalactic wrote:

One day I should try watching Dr. Who.


Maybe start at the beginning? I'm not sure where you are, but here in Australia Britbox just reintroduced the "Classic" (earlier) Dr. Who series.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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Taiellin

intergalactic wrote:

Taiellin wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Taiellin wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Taiellin wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Taiellin, see you are a translator, do you know any audio translated in Russian ver. of B7?


Unfortunately. B7 is not really popular in our country. We have only subtitles for tv series, a bunch of videos made by the fans and a few stories made by Russian authors. The first season was dubbed, but it was hard to find.

Pity, i have a friend which can't see very well, and can't read subs. but understands Russian.
By the way I have Russian subs. - a friend of mine(a russian girl) translated it years ago.


You have interesting connections, Intergalactic.


Worked for a while in Russia, even know a few Russian words Wink


Wow!

Like: Здравствуйте красотка! Wink


I see.
 
intergalactic

Taiellin wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

One day I should try watching Dr. Who.


You have many wonderful discoveries ahead of you.

After B7 can't survive more than 20min. without falling asleep on anything else.
 
Obsidian

Taiellin wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Taiellin wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Taiellin wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Taiellin wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Taiellin, see you are a translator, do you know any audio translated in Russian ver. of B7?


Unfortunately. B7 is not really popular in our country. We have only subtitles for tv series, a bunch of videos made by the fans and a few stories made by Russian authors. The first season was dubbed, but it was hard to find.

Pity, i have a friend which can't see very well, and can't read subs. but understands Russian.
By the way I have Russian subs. - a friend of mine(a russian girl) translated it years ago.


You have interesting connections, Intergalactic.


Worked for a while in Russia, even know a few Russian words Wink


Wow!

Like: Здравствуйте красотка! Wink


I see.


I've learned a bit from visiting several former Soviet republics, and knowing ancient Greek, the Cyrillic alphabet is relatively easy to read. Plus, having Russian-speaking friends etc. I used to communicate with a Russian jeweller and tried my best for practice.
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