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Rewatch Downunder Saturday 27th June B13 Star One
AnneArthur


Thanks for that!
 
Tyce
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Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Tyce wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

Tyce wrote:

Turns out Blu-ray alien spacecrafts aren’t hairdryers.


Now you've intrigued me! What do they look like, then?

Well, they are still ad hoc but several of them are kind of oval with 4 T-shaped wings on 4 sides. With one larger oval shaped with 4 winged spacecraft leading them.


I like the little round one with the flashing light. Reminds me of being stuck behind a tractor on our rural roads.


I think they're kinda adorable. I like the big round one that looks like an old vacuum cleaner. Like my Mum's one from the 50s–60s that weighed a ton, then the plastic one I got in the 70s.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
M1795537OCVirn

AnneArthur wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Tyce wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

Tyce wrote:

Turns out Blu-ray alien spacecrafts aren’t hairdryers.


Now you've intrigued me! What do they look like, then?

Well, they are still ad hoc but several of them are kind of oval with 4 T-shaped wings on 4 sides. With one larger oval shaped with 4 winged spacecraft leading them.


I like the little round one with the flashing light. Reminds me of being stuck behind a tractor on our rural roads.


A friend and I once got caught up in the Malton Young Farmers Association vintage tractor rally. We parked in a field entrance and waited for them to go past - there were about 70 of them!


I hope they all had the obligatory little yellow lights going round and round on top!
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
AnneArthur


Smile
 
Obsidian


Awww. Pretty. Where's Barbie?
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
AnneArthur

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Tyce wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

Tyce wrote:

Turns out Blu-ray alien spacecrafts aren’t hairdryers.


Now you've intrigued me! What do they look like, then?

Well, they are still ad hoc but several of them are kind of oval with 4 T-shaped wings on 4 sides. With one larger oval shaped with 4 winged spacecraft leading them.


I like the little round one with the flashing light. Reminds me of being stuck behind a tractor on our rural roads.


A friend and I once got caught up in the Malton Young Farmers Association vintage tractor rally. We parked in a field entrance and waited for them to go past - there were about 70 of them!


I hope they all had the obligatory little yellow lights going round and round on top!


Quite a few of them were too old for that!
 
M1795537OCVirn

Obsidian wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Tyce wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

Tyce wrote:

Turns out Blu-ray alien spacecrafts aren’t hairdryers.


Now you've intrigued me! What do they look like, then?

Well, they are still ad hoc but several of them are kind of oval with 4 T-shaped wings on 4 sides. With one larger oval shaped with 4 winged spacecraft leading them.


I like the little round one with the flashing light. Reminds me of being stuck behind a tractor on our rural roads.


I think they're kinda adorable. I like the big round one that looks like an old vacuum cleaner. Like my Mum's one from the 50s–60s that weighed a ton, then the plastic one I got in the 70s.


There probably was a vacuum cleaner among them.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
intergalactic

Obsidian wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Do those girls really have such short memories, or has Boucher never watched Duel, where they already visited another galaxy?


Did they really?


TRAVIS: Blake. The other patrols have pushed him into this galaxy. I knew it, I knew it! This time I've got him.(Duel.)


It's the only time anyone says anything like this, and all other references suggest, as this episode does, that humanity has remained in the one galaxy. I have always assumed that Travis mis-spoke, and meant 'The other patrols have pushed him into this [sector of the] galaxy'

Possibly, but their speed standarts suggest they could reach the Andromeda within days. For instance, remember the "halfway across the galaxy" in Redeption - they took it within a day, and it should be like 50-60 000 lyght years. Andromeda is about 2.5 million l.y. meaning 25-30 time as much.


None of this is literal at all. Again, none of these writers had a clue about the figures. What matters is that other galaxies are the unknown and it's more than likely that ALL other galaxies are considered alien.

You've got to look at it this way: how did Liberator and Travis' craft manage to get pushed into another galaxy in Duel when we know for a fact – and knew this fact at the time (it's been known since the 1920s) – that Andromeda is the nearest galaxy to ours? How come another galaxy just popped up nearby? Not possible.


Who said it's nearby, it might be Andromeda, it might be the next which is 2.7 - 3 million l.y.
But if we're not taking it literally, I don't think the authors intended material extraterrestrial life at all, if we interpret things allegorically:
Star One is the symbol of evil's power source, its invisibility is its strongest protection, and identifying it is 99% of destroying it. Star One represents the media that spread fundamental lies, such as the claim that biological evolution exists and that it is normal for people to kill each other in the struggle for material goods. The aliens inhabiting politicians’ bodies are demons who have destroyed them as personalities. A change in Blake’s course from destroying Star One to protecting it would occur if the media began to be used to spread truth and fight ignorance, which is the main chain enslaving humanity.
Blake is a "believer" - I think they suggest Biblical kind of belief in which the Federation is the "beast" from the Bible.
But they might even not realize what actually they were suggesting Wink
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Tyce wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

Tyce wrote:

Turns out Blu-ray alien spacecrafts aren’t hairdryers.


Now you've intrigued me! What do they look like, then?

Well, they are still ad hoc but several of them are kind of oval with 4 T-shaped wings on 4 sides. With one larger oval shaped with 4 winged spacecraft leading them.


I like the little round one with the flashing light. Reminds me of being stuck behind a tractor on our rural roads.


A friend and I once got caught up in the Malton Young Farmers Association vintage tractor rally. We parked in a field entrance and waited for them to go past - there were about 70 of them!


I hope they all had the obligatory little yellow lights going round and round on top!


I'd love to see a tractor rally. It'd been like that film about the steam rollers (really showing my age).
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
Obsidian

intergalactic wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Do those girls really have such short memories, or has Boucher never watched Duel, where they already visited another galaxy?


Did they really?


TRAVIS: Blake. The other patrols have pushed him into this galaxy. I knew it, I knew it! This time I've got him.(Duel.)


It's the only time anyone says anything like this, and all other references suggest, as this episode does, that humanity has remained in the one galaxy. I have always assumed that Travis mis-spoke, and meant 'The other patrols have pushed him into this [sector of the] galaxy'

Possibly, but their speed standarts suggest they could reach the Andromeda within days. For instance, remember the "halfway across the galaxy" in Redeption - they took it within a day, and it should be like 50-60 000 lyght years. Andromeda is about 2.5 million l.y. meaning 25-30 time as much.


None of this is literal at all. Again, none of these writers had a clue about the figures. What matters is that other galaxies are the unknown and it's more than likely that ALL other galaxies are considered alien.

You've got to look at it this way: how did Liberator and Travis' craft manage to get pushed into another galaxy in Duel when we know for a fact – and knew this fact at the time (it's been known since the 1920s) – that Andromeda is the nearest galaxy to ours? How come another galaxy just popped up nearby? Not possible.


Who said it's nearby, it might be Andromeda, it might be the next which is 2.7 - 3 million l.y.
But if we're not taking it literally, I don't think the authors intended material extraterrestrial life at all, if we interpret things allegorically:
Star One is the symbol of evil's power source, its invisibility is its strongest protection, and identifying it is 99% of destroying it. Star One represents the media that spread fundamental lies, such as the claim that biological evolution exists and that it is normal for people to kill each other in the struggle for material goods. The aliens inhabiting politicians’ bodies are demons who have destroyed them as personalities. A change in Blake’s course from destroying Star One to protecting it would occur if the media began to be used to spread truth and fight ignorance, which is the main chain enslaving humanity.
Blake is a "believer" - I think they suggest Biblical kind of belief in which the Federation is the "beast" from the Bible.
But they might even not realize what actually they were suggesting Wink


How did they get "pushed" into the other galaxy, then?

The real allegory was about British politics at the time.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
M1795537OCVirn
Thus endeth Series B. Lots more Servalan episodes to come - 9 out of 13 in the Charlies. Definitely worth rewatching. See you all next time!
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Tyce

Obsidian wrote:



Awww. Pretty. Where's Barbie?

Well, it’s actually more a rusty colour. It just comes out more pink in the photo.
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Thus endeth Series B. Lots more Servalan episodes to come - 9 out of 13 in the Charlies. Definitely worth rewatching. See you all next time!


What will happen to our heroes??????
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
M1795537OCVirn

Obsidian wrote:


The real allegory was about British politics at the time.


I always believed that was the reason B7 was cancelled. Too much like the truth of Maggie's Federation.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
intergalactic

Obsidian wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Do those girls really have such short memories, or has Boucher never watched Duel, where they already visited another galaxy?


Did they really?


TRAVIS: Blake. The other patrols have pushed him into this galaxy. I knew it, I knew it! This time I've got him.(Duel.)


It's the only time anyone says anything like this, and all other references suggest, as this episode does, that humanity has remained in the one galaxy. I have always assumed that Travis mis-spoke, and meant 'The other patrols have pushed him into this [sector of the] galaxy'

Possibly, but their speed standarts suggest they could reach the Andromeda within days. For instance, remember the "halfway across the galaxy" in Redeption - they took it within a day, and it should be like 50-60 000 lyght years. Andromeda is about 2.5 million l.y. meaning 25-30 time as much.


None of this is literal at all. Again, none of these writers had a clue about the figures. What matters is that other galaxies are the unknown and it's more than likely that ALL other galaxies are considered alien.

You've got to look at it this way: how did Liberator and Travis' craft manage to get pushed into another galaxy in Duel when we know for a fact – and knew this fact at the time (it's been known since the 1920s) – that Andromeda is the nearest galaxy to ours? How come another galaxy just popped up nearby? Not possible.


Who said it's nearby, it might be Andromeda, it might be the next which is 2.7 - 3 million l.y.
But if we're not taking it literally, I don't think the authors intended material extraterrestrial life at all, if we interpret things allegorically:
Star One is the symbol of evil's power source, its invisibility is its strongest protection, and identifying it is 99% of destroying it. Star One represents the media that spread fundamental lies, such as the claim that biological evolution exists and that it is normal for people to kill each other in the struggle for material goods. The aliens inhabiting politicians’ bodies are demons who have destroyed them as personalities. A change in Blake’s course from destroying Star One to protecting it would occur if the media began to be used to spread truth and fight ignorance, which is the main chain enslaving humanity.
Blake is a "believer" - I think they suggest Biblical kind of belief in which the Federation is the "beast" from the Bible.
But they might even not realize what actually they were suggesting Wink


How did they get "pushed" into the other galaxy, then?

The real allegory was about British politics at the time.


Pursuing it for a long time.

No, I think it's much more universal.
 
Obsidian

Tyce wrote:

Obsidian wrote:



Awww. Pretty. Where's Barbie?

Well, it’s actually more a rusty colour. It just comes out more pink in the photo.


It's way too cartoon-y. Haven't had a chance to watch them yet but at least I've got 'em at last.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
intergalactic

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Obsidian wrote:


The real allegory was about British politics at the time.


I always believed that was the reason B7 was cancelled. Too much like the truth of Maggie's Federation.

And I - because it threatened the new world order.
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Obsidian wrote:


The real allegory was about British politics at the time.


I always believed that was the reason B7 was cancelled. Too much like the truth of Maggie's Federation.


It's what we all thought at the time. It followed the scary prospect of her rise, which happened, and her iron grasp (if not her iron hair-do).
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
intergalactic

intergalactic wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Obsidian wrote:


The real allegory was about British politics at the time.


I always believed that was the reason B7 was cancelled. Too much like the truth of Maggie's Federation.

And I - because it threatened the new world order.

In Bulgaria they never ever aired it again, despite it was the most loved film, while they are airing all the other retros hundreds times.
 
Tyce

Obsidian wrote:

Tyce wrote:

Obsidian wrote:



Awww. Pretty. Where's Barbie?

Well, it’s actually more a rusty colour. It just comes out more pink in the photo.


It's way too cartoon-y. Haven't had a chance to watch them yet but at least I've got 'em at last.

I actually quite like them. I liked the original too of course and appreciate the creativity that went into making the original alien ships on a non-existent budget but this Blu-ray vision is good also.
 
AnneArthur

Obsidian wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Tyce wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

Tyce wrote:

Turns out Blu-ray alien spacecrafts aren’t hairdryers.


Now you've intrigued me! What do they look like, then?

Well, they are still ad hoc but several of them are kind of oval with 4 T-shaped wings on 4 sides. With one larger oval shaped with 4 winged spacecraft leading them.


I like the little round one with the flashing light. Reminds me of being stuck behind a tractor on our rural roads.


A friend and I once got caught up in the Malton Young Farmers Association vintage tractor rally. We parked in a field entrance and waited for them to go past - there were about 70 of them!


I hope they all had the obligatory little yellow lights going round and round on top!


I'd love to see a tractor rally. It'd been like that film about the steam rollers (really showing my age).


It was annoying, but also great fun. The drivers were clearly having a great time, and waved as they went past. We kept thinking that they were all past, and starting to inch out, when another ancient Massey Fergusson would come put-putting along and we would have to wait again.
 
Obsidian

intergalactic wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Obsidian wrote:


The real allegory was about British politics at the time.


I always believed that was the reason B7 was cancelled. Too much like the truth of Maggie's Federation.

And I - because it threatened the new world order.

In Bulgaria they never ever aired it again, despite it was the most loved film, while they are airing all the other retros hundreds times.


They only repeated it once here, but then, it has to do with who has paid for the rights.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
Tyce
Okay, I’m heading off now. Have a great week everyone. I hope you UK people can manage to stay cool.
 
AnneArthur
Anyway, that was a good episode, and thanks for showing us the new Andromedan ships, Tyce. See you all on Bamburgh beach next week, I hope!
 
intergalactic

Obsidian wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Obsidian wrote:


The real allegory was about British politics at the time.


I always believed that was the reason B7 was cancelled. Too much like the truth of Maggie's Federation.

And I - because it threatened the new world order.

In Bulgaria they never ever aired it again, despite it was the most loved film, while they are airing all the other retros hundreds times.


They only repeated it once here, but then, it has to do with who has paid for the rights.

Doubt it is the most expensive.
 
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Tyce wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

Tyce wrote:

Turns out Blu-ray alien spacecrafts aren’t hairdryers.


Now you've intrigued me! What do they look like, then?

Well, they are still ad hoc but several of them are kind of oval with 4 T-shaped wings on 4 sides. With one larger oval shaped with 4 winged spacecraft leading them.


I like the little round one with the flashing light. Reminds me of being stuck behind a tractor on our rural roads.


A friend and I once got caught up in the Malton Young Farmers Association vintage tractor rally. We parked in a field entrance and waited for them to go past - there were about 70 of them!


I hope they all had the obligatory little yellow lights going round and round on top!


I'd love to see a tractor rally. It'd been like that film about the steam rollers (really showing my age).


It was annoying, but also great fun. The drivers were clearly having a great time, and waved as they went past. We kept thinking that they were all past, and starting to inch out, when another ancient Massey Fergusson would come put-putting along and we would have to wait again.


The film was The Iron Maiden. What were we talking about? Spooky!

I have been stuck behind a tractor going along once of those narrow lanes in North Yorkshire with the stone walls either side. Before that, we'd been beetling along at high speed in an old Mini. It was muck-spreading time.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
Obsidian

intergalactic wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Obsidian wrote:


The real allegory was about British politics at the time.


I always believed that was the reason B7 was cancelled. Too much like the truth of Maggie's Federation.

And I - because it threatened the new world order.

In Bulgaria they never ever aired it again, despite it was the most loved film, while they are airing all the other retros hundreds times.


They only repeated it once here, but then, it has to do with who has paid for the rights.

Doubt it is the most expensive.


Expense isn't the issue. The rights to it are highly complex and have been an issue on many levels, which is why the BBC killed most of the YouTube vision when they put it on BritBox.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote:

Anyway, that was a good episode, and thanks for showing us the new Andromedan ships, Tyce. See you all on Bamburgh beach next week, I hope!


Yay Bamburgh! A marvellous beach. Did I send you the pics I took of you there?
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
intergalactic

Obsidian wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Obsidian wrote:


The real allegory was about British politics at the time.


I always believed that was the reason B7 was cancelled. Too much like the truth of Maggie's Federation.

And I - because it threatened the new world order.

In Bulgaria they never ever aired it again, despite it was the most loved film, while they are airing all the other retros hundreds times.


They only repeated it once here, but then, it has to do with who has paid for the rights.

Doubt it is the most expensive.


Expense isn't the issue. The rights to it are highly complex and have been an issue on many levels, which is why the BBC killed most of the YouTube vision when they put it on BritBox.

It might explain "how" but not "why" and I'm sure it's not just a side effect. TV is the main and most powerful brainwashing weapon of the rulers, and what you see on it is not shaped by the audience's tastes - it shapes the audience's tastes, that's the goal. "Expense isn't the issue", of course, the effect on the audience is. The rulers would pay whatever it costs to produce the effect they want, or to prevent the effect they don't want.
 
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