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intergalactic

Obsidian wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

I'm interested in all the other lights visible on Star One as they approach it. Room for some explanations there. Is each one beaming out commands? Far more complex than than Blake's empty room on Earth was imagined to be.

Only the computers in the room, there might be another type instalations on the planet, like antenas, there was a quarry ... room for much more ...


I've always seen them as something akin to various inter-linked radio telescopes.

Telescopes should be in space - clearer vision , no atmosphere - somewhere at these "satelite generators"
 
intergalactic
STOTT: I can not understand you.
BLAKE: Maybe you just don't have psychopaths in Andromeda.
 
AnneArthur

intergalactic wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Do those girls really have such short memories, or has Boucher never watched Duel, where they already visited another galaxy?


Did they really?


TRAVIS: Blake. The other patrols have pushed him into this galaxy. I knew it, I knew it! This time I've got him.(Duel.)


It's the only time anyone says anything like this, and all other references suggest, as this episode does, that humanity has remained in the one galaxy. I have always assumed that Travis mis-spoke, and meant 'The other patrols have pushed him into this [sector of the] galaxy'
 
intergalactic
What mystical music, like a revelation.
 
Obsidian

intergalactic wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Do those girls really have such short memories, or has Boucher never watched Duel, where they already visited another galaxy?


Did they really?


TRAVIS: Blake. The other patrols have pushed him into this galaxy. I knew it, I knew it! This time I've got him.(Duel.)


Well, TN was a little flaky in his use of terminology. He refers to meteorites flying around in Space, for example, even though they don't. I don't think he did enough research or had enough understanding of Space in any real sense, or what it might mean to infer that his characters just popped over to another galaxy.
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Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Do those girls really have such short memories, or has Boucher never watched Duel, where they already visited another galaxy?


Did they really?


TRAVIS: Blake. The other patrols have pushed him into this galaxy. I knew it, I knew it! This time I've got him.(Duel.)


It's the only time anyone says anything like this, and all other references suggest, as this episode does, that humanity has remained in the one galaxy. I have always assumed that Travis mis-spoke, and meant 'The other patrols have pushed him into this [sector of the] galaxy'


Exactly.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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Tyce
Turns out Blu-ray alien spacecrafts aren’t hairdryers.
 
Obsidian

intergalactic wrote:

The most interesting unresolved question for me is what guarantees the aliens gave Travis that they would bother to provide him with the opportunity to carry out the final act rather than simply kill him.


Nothing.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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M1795537OCVirn
I think Travis is beyond caring what happens to him afterwards.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
AnneArthur

Tyce wrote:

Turns out Blu-ray alien spacecrafts aren’t hairdryers.


Now you've intrigued me! What do they look like, then?
 
Obsidian

Tyce wrote:

Turns out Blu-ray alien spacecrafts aren’t hairdryers.


Which defeats the whole ingenuity of the show.
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AnneArthur

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

I think Travis is beyond caring what happens to him afterwards.


I agree.
 
intergalactic

AnneArthur wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Do those girls really have such short memories, or has Boucher never watched Duel, where they already visited another galaxy?


Did they really?


TRAVIS: Blake. The other patrols have pushed him into this galaxy. I knew it, I knew it! This time I've got him.(Duel.)


It's the only time anyone says anything like this, and all other references suggest, as this episode does, that humanity has remained in the one galaxy. I have always assumed that Travis mis-spoke, and meant 'The other patrols have pushed him into this [sector of the] galaxy'

Possibly, but their speed standarts suggest they could reach the Andromeda within days. For instance, remember the "halfway across the galaxy" in Redeption - they took it within a day, and it should be like 50-60 000 lyght years. Andromeda is about 2.5 million l.y. meaning 50-60 time as much.
Edited by intergalactic on 27-06-2026 10:18
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

I think Travis is beyond caring what happens to him afterwards.


Agreed. He's beyond it. He's at the "I'll show them!" stage.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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intergalactic
Durkim thinks Blake is a joker.
 
M1795537OCVirn

intergalactic wrote:

Durkim thinks Blake is a joker.


He's not the only one.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
intergalactic

Obsidian wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

The most interesting unresolved question for me is what guarantees the aliens gave Travis that they would bother to provide him with the opportunity to carry out the final act rather than simply kill him.


Nothing.

Might be the contract with Adro Media One.
 
intergalactic

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Durkim thinks Blake is a joker.


He's not the only one.

...so Servalan is much more than all of them - who said sexism.
 
Obsidian

intergalactic wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Do those girls really have such short memories, or has Boucher never watched Duel, where they already visited another galaxy?


Did they really?


TRAVIS: Blake. The other patrols have pushed him into this galaxy. I knew it, I knew it! This time I've got him.(Duel.)


It's the only time anyone says anything like this, and all other references suggest, as this episode does, that humanity has remained in the one galaxy. I have always assumed that Travis mis-spoke, and meant 'The other patrols have pushed him into this [sector of the] galaxy'

Possibly, but their speed standarts suggest they could reach the Andromeda within days. For instance, remember the "halfway across the galaxy" in Redeption - they took it within a day, and it should be like 50-60 000 lyght years. Andromeda is about 2.5 million l.y. meaning 25-30 time as much.


None of this is literal at all. Again, none of these writers had a clue about the figures. What matters is that other galaxies are the unknown and it's more than likely that ALL other galaxies are considered alien.

You've got to look at it this way: how did Liberator and Travis' craft manage to get pushed into another galaxy in Duel when we know for a fact – and knew this fact at the time (it's been known since the 1920s) – that Andromeda is the nearest galaxy to ours? How come another galaxy just popped up nearby? Not possible.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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intergalactic
"Why not?" = "Do you have any better ideas for increasing humanity's chances of survival, including ours?"
 
Tyce

AnneArthur wrote:

Tyce wrote:

Turns out Blu-ray alien spacecrafts aren’t hairdryers.


Now you've intrigued me! What do they look like, then?

Well, they are still ad hoc but several of them are kind of oval with 4 T-shaped wings on 4 sides. With one larger oval shaped with 4 winged spacecraft leading them.
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Durkim thinks Blake is a joker.


He's not the only one.


Indeed!
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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intergalactic
This ep. would have felt even sadder than Gan’s death if we'd known that this would be the last time we'd see Blake until the final episode, and Jenna at all.
 
M1795537OCVirn
Still, it was a laugh, wasn't it?
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
AnneArthur

Tyce wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

Tyce wrote:

Turns out Blu-ray alien spacecrafts aren’t hairdryers.


Now you've intrigued me! What do they look like, then?

Well, they are still ad hoc but several of them are kind of oval with 4 T-shaped wings on 4 sides. With one larger oval shaped with 4 winged spacecraft leading them.


How interesting! Thanks.
 
Obsidian

intergalactic wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

The most interesting unresolved question for me is what guarantees the aliens gave Travis that they would bother to provide him with the opportunity to carry out the final act rather than simply kill him.


Nothing.

Might be the contract with Adro Media One.


I doubt it. If they made promises, I'm pretty sure Travis wouldn't believe them for a minute. He's damaged, yes, but not stupid.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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M1795537OCVirn

Tyce wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

Tyce wrote:

Turns out Blu-ray alien spacecrafts aren’t hairdryers.


Now you've intrigued me! What do they look like, then?

Well, they are still ad hoc but several of them are kind of oval with 4 T-shaped wings on 4 sides. With one larger oval shaped with 4 winged spacecraft leading them.


I like the little round one with the flashing light. Reminds me of being stuck behind a tractor on our rural roads.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian

Tyce wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

Tyce wrote:

Turns out Blu-ray alien spacecrafts aren’t hairdryers.


Now you've intrigued me! What do they look like, then?

Well, they are still ad hoc but several of them are kind of oval with 4 T-shaped wings on 4 sides. With one larger oval shaped with 4 winged spacecraft leading them.


Yes, I think the boys that did this thought they were being really clever to change things, at least from the trailers I saw. But why bother? Why not just make the original hair dryers clearer? We all know what they are and knew that all along.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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Tyce
i.postimg.cc/ZRBSzNPT/IMG-2223.jpg
 
AnneArthur

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Tyce wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

Tyce wrote:

Turns out Blu-ray alien spacecrafts aren’t hairdryers.


Now you've intrigued me! What do they look like, then?

Well, they are still ad hoc but several of them are kind of oval with 4 T-shaped wings on 4 sides. With one larger oval shaped with 4 winged spacecraft leading them.


I like the little round one with the flashing light. Reminds me of being stuck behind a tractor on our rural roads.


A friend and I once got caught up in the Malton Young Farmers Association vintage tractor rally. We parked in a field entrance and waited for them to go past - there were about 70 of them!
 
AnneArthur


Thanks for that!
 
Tyce
i.postimg.cc/bNPK3W5g/IMG-2224.jpg
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Tyce wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

Tyce wrote:

Turns out Blu-ray alien spacecrafts aren’t hairdryers.


Now you've intrigued me! What do they look like, then?

Well, they are still ad hoc but several of them are kind of oval with 4 T-shaped wings on 4 sides. With one larger oval shaped with 4 winged spacecraft leading them.


I like the little round one with the flashing light. Reminds me of being stuck behind a tractor on our rural roads.


I think they're kinda adorable. I like the big round one that looks like an old vacuum cleaner. Like my Mum's one from the 50s–60s that weighed a ton, then the plastic one I got in the 70s.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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M1795537OCVirn

AnneArthur wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Tyce wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

Tyce wrote:

Turns out Blu-ray alien spacecrafts aren’t hairdryers.


Now you've intrigued me! What do they look like, then?

Well, they are still ad hoc but several of them are kind of oval with 4 T-shaped wings on 4 sides. With one larger oval shaped with 4 winged spacecraft leading them.


I like the little round one with the flashing light. Reminds me of being stuck behind a tractor on our rural roads.


A friend and I once got caught up in the Malton Young Farmers Association vintage tractor rally. We parked in a field entrance and waited for them to go past - there were about 70 of them!


I hope they all had the obligatory little yellow lights going round and round on top!
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
AnneArthur


Smile
 
Obsidian


Awww. Pretty. Where's Barbie?
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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AnneArthur

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Tyce wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

Tyce wrote:

Turns out Blu-ray alien spacecrafts aren’t hairdryers.


Now you've intrigued me! What do they look like, then?

Well, they are still ad hoc but several of them are kind of oval with 4 T-shaped wings on 4 sides. With one larger oval shaped with 4 winged spacecraft leading them.


I like the little round one with the flashing light. Reminds me of being stuck behind a tractor on our rural roads.


A friend and I once got caught up in the Malton Young Farmers Association vintage tractor rally. We parked in a field entrance and waited for them to go past - there were about 70 of them!


I hope they all had the obligatory little yellow lights going round and round on top!


Quite a few of them were too old for that!
 
M1795537OCVirn

Obsidian wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Tyce wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

Tyce wrote:

Turns out Blu-ray alien spacecrafts aren’t hairdryers.


Now you've intrigued me! What do they look like, then?

Well, they are still ad hoc but several of them are kind of oval with 4 T-shaped wings on 4 sides. With one larger oval shaped with 4 winged spacecraft leading them.


I like the little round one with the flashing light. Reminds me of being stuck behind a tractor on our rural roads.


I think they're kinda adorable. I like the big round one that looks like an old vacuum cleaner. Like my Mum's one from the 50s–60s that weighed a ton, then the plastic one I got in the 70s.


There probably was a vacuum cleaner among them.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
intergalactic

Obsidian wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

intergalactic wrote:

Do those girls really have such short memories, or has Boucher never watched Duel, where they already visited another galaxy?


Did they really?


TRAVIS: Blake. The other patrols have pushed him into this galaxy. I knew it, I knew it! This time I've got him.(Duel.)


It's the only time anyone says anything like this, and all other references suggest, as this episode does, that humanity has remained in the one galaxy. I have always assumed that Travis mis-spoke, and meant 'The other patrols have pushed him into this [sector of the] galaxy'

Possibly, but their speed standarts suggest they could reach the Andromeda within days. For instance, remember the "halfway across the galaxy" in Redeption - they took it within a day, and it should be like 50-60 000 lyght years. Andromeda is about 2.5 million l.y. meaning 25-30 time as much.


None of this is literal at all. Again, none of these writers had a clue about the figures. What matters is that other galaxies are the unknown and it's more than likely that ALL other galaxies are considered alien.

You've got to look at it this way: how did Liberator and Travis' craft manage to get pushed into another galaxy in Duel when we know for a fact – and knew this fact at the time (it's been known since the 1920s) – that Andromeda is the nearest galaxy to ours? How come another galaxy just popped up nearby? Not possible.


Who said it's nearby, it might be Andromeda, it might be the next which is 2.7 - 3 million l.y.
But if we're not taking it literally, I don't think the authors intended material extraterrestrial life at all, if we interpret things allegorically:
Star One is the symbol of evil's power source, its invisibility is its strongest protection, and identifying it is 99% of destroying it. Star One represents the media that spread fundamental lies, such as the claim that biological evolution exists and that it is normal for people to kill each other in the struggle for material goods. The aliens inhabiting politicians’ bodies are demons who have destroyed them as personalities. A change in Blake’s course from destroying Star One to protecting it would occur if the media began to be used to spread truth and fight ignorance, which is the main chain enslaving humanity.
Blake is a "believer" - I think they suggest Biblical kind of belief in which the Federation is the "beast" from the Bible.
But they might even not realize what actually they were suggesting Wink
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Tyce wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

Tyce wrote:

Turns out Blu-ray alien spacecrafts aren’t hairdryers.


Now you've intrigued me! What do they look like, then?

Well, they are still ad hoc but several of them are kind of oval with 4 T-shaped wings on 4 sides. With one larger oval shaped with 4 winged spacecraft leading them.


I like the little round one with the flashing light. Reminds me of being stuck behind a tractor on our rural roads.


A friend and I once got caught up in the Malton Young Farmers Association vintage tractor rally. We parked in a field entrance and waited for them to go past - there were about 70 of them!


I hope they all had the obligatory little yellow lights going round and round on top!


I'd love to see a tractor rally. It'd been like that film about the steam rollers (really showing my age).
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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