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Rewatch Downunder: A4 Time Squad - Saturday 21st Jan 2023
Travisina
9.30am (UK) / 8.30pm (Australia)

In which we meet a telepathic alien, and encounter ferocious non-telepathic aliens. And carnivorous plants. Avon shows off his piloting skills in Jenna's absence (it's all downhill from here), and we learn more about Gan...
There is no point being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes
 
Obsidian
It's 8.30 of the clock and all systems are functioning normally.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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Tyce
Hello rebels.
 
Obsidian

Tyce wrote:

Hello rebels.


Hello yourself Tyce. Been sitting here twiddling my thumbs and trying to work out the answer to THE WORD.
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M1795537OCVirn
Hi, sorry I'm a biut late. Apologies from Travisina. Have you started?
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian
Shall we play?
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Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Hi, sorry I'm a biut late. Apologies from Travisina. Have you started?


We'll accept the apology, won't we Tyce? Starting now.

How are you MsVirn?
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M1795537OCVirn
Cold and frosty, but otherwose OK. Still haven't had any snow this winter, although there is some on the tops of the mountsins - looks gorgeous in the sunshine. HAs it stopped raining downunder?
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Tyce

Obsidian wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Hi, sorry I'm a biut late. Apologies from Travisina. Have you started?


We'll accept the apology, won't we Tyce? Starting now.

How are you MsVirn?

Yes, all apologies are accepted as long as you get here eventually.
 
Obsidian
Opting out or a thorough discussion when a thorough discussion isn't actually countenanced by Blake sound like fait accompli to me.
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M1795537OCVirn
'I'm sure Blake will manage it somehow'... great line.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Cold and frosty, but otherwose OK. Still haven't had any snow this winter, although there is some on the tops of the mountsins - looks gorgeous in the sunshine. HAs it stopped raining downunder?


Frosty is fine, it's cold and soggy that's not fun.

Rain has slowed here but we're still having cool days. Someone, somewhere gets rain as the clouds pass us by.
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Obsidian
Such a young, innocent Michael Keating.
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AnneArthur
Hello, sorry I'm late. Freezing fog here - we haven't had snow yet either. I always forget that this is the episode where we meet Cally.
 
M1795537OCVirn
It's decided. The only really good Toblerone is the original one. I was gven a Toblerone selection pack at Christmas, and the black one was ok, not as bad as the white one, and not nearly as weird as the gold one. Just thought you needed to know.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Tyce
Rather arrogant of Avon, saying he can overhaul Zen; they haven’t even been there long enough for him to research how Zen works.
 
M1795537OCVirn

Obsidian wrote:

Such a young, innocent Michael Keating.


So were we, mostly.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Tyce

AnneArthur wrote:

Hello, sorry I'm late. Freezing fog here - we haven't had snow yet either. I always forget that this is the episode where we meet Cally.

Yep Cally is on her way. :-)
 
Obsidian
On the teleport gizmo, I wonder what's under the green strips? Maybe it's like the covers over the keys on old cash registers. They had me flummoxed for a long time when I worked in Coles New World (had a rocket on the roof of the store) Supermarket. The higher value keys were hiding underneath Smile
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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AnneArthur
Do you know Firefly, Obsidian? It would be interesting to compare Blake's leadership style with that of Malcolm Reynolds. The situations are similar. I haven't really looked at it, but I get the impression that Reynolds is also quite high handed when he wants to get something done.
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

It's decided. The only really good Toblerone is the original one. I was gven a Toblerone selection pack at Christmas, and the black one was ok, not as bad as the white one, and not nearly as weird as the gold one. Just thought you needed to know.

+CONFIRMED+
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Tyce

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

It's decided. The only really good Toblerone is the original one. I was gven a Toblerone selection pack at Christmas, and the black one was ok, not as bad as the white one, and not nearly as weird as the gold one. Just thought you needed to know.

As a confirm chocoholic, all I’ll say is, I’d eat the original one first…….
 
M1795537OCVirn
One wonders what horrors Cally is experiencing while they are messing about up there. She was the only one left, remember.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Tyce

AnneArthur wrote:

Do you know Firefly, Obsidian? It would be interesting to compare Blake's leadership style with that of Malcolm Reynolds. The situations are similar. I haven't really looked at it, but I get the impression that Reynolds is also quite high handed when he wants to get something done.

I love Firefly!! Totally awesome, also a total B7 rip off.
 
AnneArthur
Zen seems to be sturggling to break free of the System's residual controls. I wonder if it picked up Jenna's name 'Liberator' because it wanted to be liberated itself?
 
Tyce
Blake and Jenna are holding handy pandys.
 
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote:

Do you know Firefly, Obsidian? It would be interesting to compare Blake's leadership style with that of Malcolm Reynolds. The situations are similar. I haven't really looked at it, but I get the impression that Reynolds is also quite high handed when he wants to get something done.


Hi Anne. Hope all is well with you.

No, I've never seen Firefly though I've heard a lot about it. It's the presumption of leadership that is problematic with Blake. It's not that anyone else, even Avon, wants to 'lead' as such, but that Blake claps on about freedom but doesn't allow any discussion at all. So much for democracy.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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Tyce
I like the “don’t tell him that” LOL
 
AnneArthur

Tyce wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

Do you know Firefly, Obsidian? It would be interesting to compare Blake's leadership style with that of Malcolm Reynolds. The situations are similar. I haven't really looked at it, but I get the impression that Reynolds is also quite high handed when he wants to get something done.

I love Firefly!! Totally awesome, also a total B7 rip off.


I was watching 'Jaynestown' again recently, and of course, it's the 'Orbit' scenario in practice - Jayne does jettison everything, including the loot and his crewmate, to reach escape velocity. And becomes a hero for it.
 
M1795537OCVirn

Tyce wrote:

Blake and Jenna are holding handy pandys.


We just don't have enough B7 emojis to express what I feel about that.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Obsidian

AnneArthur wrote:

Zen seems to be sturggling to break free of the System's residual controls. I wonder if it picked up Jenna's name 'Liberator' because it wanted to be liberated itself?


Possibly. It's those little, cranky human characteristics about Zen that made the Jabberwocky stories so plausible, where the computer is actually based on a human brain.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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Tyce

Obsidian wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

Do you know Firefly, Obsidian? It would be interesting to compare Blake's leadership style with that of Malcolm Reynolds. The situations are similar. I haven't really looked at it, but I get the impression that Reynolds is also quite high handed when he wants to get something done.


Hi Anne. Hope all is well with you.

No, I've never seen Firefly though I've heard a lot about it. It's the presumption of leadership that is problematic with Blake. It's not that anyone else, even Avon, wants to 'lead' as such, but that Blake claps on about freedom but doesn't allow any discussion at all. So much for democracy.

Blake made it clear that anyone who wanted to leave was very welcome to, he never forced them to stay.
 
Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Tyce wrote:

Blake and Jenna are holding handy pandys.


We just don't have enough B7 emojis to express what I feel about that.


We definitely don't. An equivalent of this one 🤮 – and we know who that's going to be – is sorely needed.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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Obsidian

Tyce wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

Do you know Firefly, Obsidian? It would be interesting to compare Blake's leadership style with that of Malcolm Reynolds. The situations are similar. I haven't really looked at it, but I get the impression that Reynolds is also quite high handed when he wants to get something done.


Hi Anne. Hope all is well with you.

No, I've never seen Firefly though I've heard a lot about it. It's the presumption of leadership that is problematic with Blake. It's not that anyone else, even Avon, wants to 'lead' as such, but that Blake claps on about freedom but doesn't allow any discussion at all. So much for democracy.

Blake made it clear that anyone who wanted to leave was very welcome to, he never forced them to stay.


It's not about staying, it's about having a say; otherwise it's a dictatorship.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
https://www.seraglio-design.com/
AnneArthur

Obsidian wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

Do you know Firefly, Obsidian? It would be interesting to compare Blake's leadership style with that of Malcolm Reynolds. The situations are similar. I haven't really looked at it, but I get the impression that Reynolds is also quite high handed when he wants to get something done.


Hi Anne. Hope all is well with you.

No, I've never seen Firefly though I've heard a lot about it. It's the presumption of leadership that is problematic with Blake. It's not that anyone else, even Avon, wants to 'lead' as such, but that Blake claps on about freedom but doesn't allow any discussion at all. So much for democracy.


Reynolds does allow some discussion, but when he want something done shuts it down with 'this isn't a democracy'. But then he isn't pretending to be an idealist (although he is one, really) - whereas you might think that Blake is the reverse.
 
M1795537OCVirn

Tyce wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

Do you know Firefly, Obsidian? It would be interesting to compare Blake's leadership style with that of Malcolm Reynolds. The situations are similar. I haven't really looked at it, but I get the impression that Reynolds is also quite high handed when he wants to get something done.


Hi Anne. Hope all is well with you.

No, I've never seen Firefly though I've heard a lot about it. It's the presumption of leadership that is problematic with Blake. It's not that anyone else, even Avon, wants to 'lead' as such, but that Blake claps on about freedom but doesn't allow any discussion at all. So much for democracy.

Blake made it clear that anyone who wanted to leave was very welcome to, he never forced them to stay.


But where else would they go? Leaving Blake with all that loot as well as the ship? I don't think so. Also, Blake is so concerned with his 'cause' that he doesn't often pause near enough to somewhere civilised to let them off.
Edited by M1795537OCVirn on 21-01-2023 10:01
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Obsidian
Errrggh! Yes, Vila. It's horrible styrofoam.
Don't philosophise at me you electronic moron.
 
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Obsidian

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Tyce wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

Do you know Firefly, Obsidian? It would be interesting to compare Blake's leadership style with that of Malcolm Reynolds. The situations are similar. I haven't really looked at it, but I get the impression that Reynolds is also quite high handed when he wants to get something done.


Hi Anne. Hope all is well with you.

No, I've never seen Firefly though I've heard a lot about it. It's the presumption of leadership that is problematic with Blake. It's not that anyone else, even Avon, wants to 'lead' as such, but that Blake claps on about freedom but doesn't allow any discussion at all. So much for democracy.

Blake made it clear that anyone who wanted to leave was very welcome to, he never forced them to stay.


But where else would they go? Leaving Blake with all that loot as well as the ship? I don't think so. Also, Blake is so concerned with his 'cause' that doesn't often pause near enough to somewhere civilised to let them off.



Blake's full of bombast anyway. He knows he can't do it alone.
Edited by Obsidian on 21-01-2023 10:01
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AnneArthur

Obsidian wrote:

Tyce wrote:

Obsidian wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

Do you know Firefly, Obsidian? It would be interesting to compare Blake's leadership style with that of Malcolm Reynolds. The situations are similar. I haven't really looked at it, but I get the impression that Reynolds is also quite high handed when he wants to get something done.


Hi Anne. Hope all is well with you.

No, I've never seen Firefly though I've heard a lot about it. It's the presumption of leadership that is problematic with Blake. It's not that anyone else, even Avon, wants to 'lead' as such, but that Blake claps on about freedom but doesn't allow any discussion at all. So much for democracy.

Blake made it clear that anyone who wanted to leave was very welcome to, he never forced them to stay.


It's not about staying, it's about having a say; otherwise it's a dictatorship.


Or it's a ship's crew. In space/at sea, emergencies tend to arise where there isn't time for a mature discussion of the options - a chain of command is essential. And Avon ends up getting equally dictatorial - it's the nature of the beast.
 
M1795537OCVirn
On this leadership issue (can't be bothered filling the thread with quotes)
is it a power corrupts thing, or that Blake sees his opportunity and the rest are onlookers (except when he can use them), and with Avon, his increasing mental problems were what made him beome more dictatorial?
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