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TAIELLIN PRESENTS: The Snow Queen Thursday 27th November 7.45pm
OneSparePart
Welcome all to the next in a random series of films under the headline TAIELLIN PRESENTS!

There have been several versions of The Snow Queen over the years. My favourite one is the BBC version from 2005 with Patrick Stewart voicing the Raven.

THIS film is a Russian animated version from 1957. Not seen this, so I'm looking forward to it. There are english subtitles but you will have to enable them yourself. Easy peasy.

A great story by a great storyteller.

Here's the link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8vPx...8vPx-u9p_A
Edited by OneSparePart on 26-11-2025 15:25
Silflay hraka, u embleer rah!
 
AnneArthur
A story that was such an obvious influence on both C S Lewis and Philip Pullman has got to be worth watching!
 
OneSparePart
I read Hans Christian Andersen avidly and repeatedly as a child. The Little Fir Tree scarred me for life though. But I loved The Snow Queen. That splinter of ice...
Silflay hraka, u embleer rah!
 
M1795537OCVirn
Hi, folks. H C Andersen was an influence on lots of writers, and still is. Loved the story, not sure about films of it, in case it's not as I imagined it, but hey, I'll give it a try.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Taiellin

OneSparePart wrote:

Welcome all to the next in a random series of films under the headline TAIELLIN PRESENTS!

There have been several versions of The Snow Queen over the years. My favourite one is the BBC version from 2005 with Patrick Stewart voicing the Raven.

THIS film is a Russian animated version from 1957. Not seen this, so I'm looking forward to it. There are english subtitles but you will have to enable them yourself. Easy peasy.

A great story by a great storyteller.

Here's the link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8vPx...8vPx-u9p_A


Such a great headline!
Thank you.
 
Taiellin
Hayao Miyazaki liked this cartoon, and some people watched it because of him. This cartoon is quite popular in our country. I don't think you will find a person who has never watched it.
 
OneSparePart
Sadly and very last minute-ly, I cannot make it tonight. I'll catch up later. I am expecting a more erudite commentary than we get when I am here...
Silflay hraka, u embleer rah!
 
Taiellin

OneSparePart wrote:

Sadly and very last minute-ly, I cannot make it tonight. I'll catch up later. I am expecting a more erudite commentary than we get when I am here...


It is a pity!
 
M1795537OCVirn
Sorry you can't be with us, OSP. At least we'll be spared the oblique references to popular music of which I've never heard.I'm non_B7 rewatching with a log fire blazing to my left, and feeling virtuous because I've sorted my Christmas cards out - need to post them, but that can wait till Monday.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Taiellin
So. Is everybody ready?
 
M1795537OCVirn
Yes, starting!
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
M1795537OCVirn
This introduction is like the BFG story. He deals in dreams as well.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Taiellin

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

This introduction is like the BFG story. He deals in dreams as well.


Is it Roald Dahl?
 
M1795537OCVirn

Taiellin wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

This introduction is like the BFG story. He deals in dreams as well.


Is it Roald Dahl?


Yes!
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
M1795537OCVirn
Aad so it begins - he doesn't even let Gerda help.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
M1795537OCVirn
This Snow Queen must be massive - compared to the size of Kay!
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
M1795537OCVirn
Does this old lady with the huge dress live in a gingerbread house?
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Taiellin

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

This Snow Queen must be massive - compared to the size of Kay!


Yeah. I was a bit scared when I saw the real face of the Snow Queen, not a cartoon. The creators used the real actress in one moment.
 
Taiellin

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Does this old lady with the huge dress live in a gingerbread house?


At least she didn't offer Gerda anything to eat.
 
AnneArthur
In the story I seem to remember that the Snow Queen got him to go with her by promising him the whole world - and a new pair of ice skates. I rather liked that touch!
 
M1795537OCVirn

AnneArthur wrote:

In the story I seem to remember that the Snow Queen got him to go with her by promising him the whole world - and a new pair of ice skates. I rather liked that touch!


Appealing to his materialism - yes that would work!
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
AnneArthur
What kind of bird is this?
 
M1795537OCVirn
People (especially chidren) are drawn to Andersen's somewhat scary stories because one can learn a lot more from facing and solving problems than from Disney's happy ever after stuff.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Taiellin

AnneArthur wrote:

What kind of bird is this?


Raven.
 
M1795537OCVirn

Taiellin wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

What kind of bird is this?


Raven.


I've never seen a raven with white bits before!
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
AnneArthur

Taiellin wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

What kind of bird is this?


Raven.


Thank you. I wondered if it was a magpie, because of the white bits.
 
M1795537OCVirn

AnneArthur wrote:

Taiellin wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

What kind of bird is this?


Raven.


Thank you. I wondered if it was a magpie, because of the white bits.


Technically, Andersen's bird was a crow.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
M1795537OCVirn
I love the way that the story explains how the slivers of mirror go everywhere, causing nastiness in the world, and it's only by chance that they enter Kay - it could happen to anyone - and if there are any slivers still about it still could (which is partly why it's scary).
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
AnneArthur
I really feel that the sound of the whistle does not need a subtitle saying 'piercing whistle', but I suppose they are subtitles for the deaf as well.
 
AnneArthur
I remember the robber girl.
 
Taiellin

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

People (especially chidren) are drawn to Andersen's somewhat scary stories because one can learn a lot more from facing and solving problems than from Disney's happy ever after stuff.


Sometimes it is too happy. By the way there is a Soviet cartoon. It is called Adventures of Mowgli. It is much more serious than the Disney cartoon.
Just don't watch it in English, if you decide to do that. Those who translated it, put there funny songs which shouldn't have been there at all. Use subtitles again.
Edited by Taiellin on 27-11-2025 20:39
 
M1795537OCVirn
Well done, reindeer!
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Taiellin

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

Taiellin wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

What kind of bird is this?


Raven.


Thank you. I wondered if it was a magpie, because of the white bits.


Technically, Andersen's bird was a crow.


I suppose I confused raven and crow. Really, those two words seemed alike to me.
 
M1795537OCVirn
Old ladies get some good parts in this story!
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
AnneArthur

Taiellin wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

Taiellin wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

What kind of bird is this?


Raven.


Thank you. I wondered if it was a magpie, because of the white bits.


Technically, Andersen's bird was a crow.


I suppose I confused raven and crow. Really, those two words seemed alike to me.


I couldn't tell the difference.
 
Taiellin
There is another cartoon in the end. You can skip it.
 
M1795537OCVirn

AnneArthur wrote:

Taiellin wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

Taiellin wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

What kind of bird is this?


Raven.


Thank you. I wondered if it was a magpie, because of the white bits.


Technically, Andersen's bird was a crow.


I suppose I confused raven and crow. Really, those two words seemed alike to me.


I couldn't tell the difference.


Ravens are bigger, and less common. Probably hard to tell the difference unless you saw both at once. Also supposedly more intelligent. They feature in several legends etc. like the one about the Tower of London. That's why I remember Anderson saying it was a crow - they don't usually get a mention. UNless it's a translation thing.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
M1795537OCVirn

Taiellin wrote:

There is another cartoon in the end. You can skip it.


Good - because I couldn't find the English subtitles!
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Taiellin

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Taiellin wrote:

There is another cartoon in the end. You can skip it.


Good - because I couldn't find the English subtitles!


I don't think they were there.
 
M1795537OCVirn
Great story and nice animation. I loved the snowstorm trying to drive her back.
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