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Children of Green Knowe Rewatch continued, the Film(s)
M1795537OCVirn

AnneArthur wrote:

OneSparePart wrote:

He's not as good as the tv lad


He's very different - quite a lot older, and rather more spiky and combative. Last week's Tolly was more like the one in the book.

Do you mean, different from the one in the first book, or different from the one in the second one? But I agree, and he's a bit too old for all the imaginative stuff that Little Tolly was so good at.
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AnneArthur
I like Maggie Smith as the grandmother, but do you think they have put in too much backstory that wasn't in the book?
 
OneSparePart
Bloody hell a semi transparent nightie on a young girl....
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M1795537OCVirn
He's spiky because of his dad being missing, I suppose. On edge, I mean, especially in a weird old house.
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AnneArthur

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

OneSparePart wrote:

He's not as good as the tv lad


He's very different - quite a lot older, and rather more spiky and combative. Last week's Tolly was more like the one in the book.

Do you mean, different from the one in the first book, or different from the one in the second one? But I agree, and he's a bit too old for all the imaginative stuff that Little Tolly was so good at.


In the second book, as far as I remember, he was like the Tolly of the first book, only older. And of course having met Toby, Alexander and Linnet, he wasn't surprised to meet Susan.
 
OneSparePart

AnneArthur wrote:

I like Maggie Smith as the grandmother, but do you think they have put in too much backstory that wasn't in the book?

Well, I don't want to know about his parents or the war. The story should be more insular as it was on the tv version.
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AnneArthur

OneSparePart wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

I like Maggie Smith as the grandmother, but do you think they have put in too much backstory that wasn't in the book?

Well, I don't want to know about his parents or the war. The story should be more insular as it was on the tv version.


I think I agree - but these adapters always want to add things.
 
M1795537OCVirn
Haven't read the second book, so I don't know about the backstory, although there is a lot going on, one way and another...
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AnneArthur
Always Christmas, but never winter . . . I think there are more trees in leaf this week.
 
OneSparePart

AnneArthur wrote:

OneSparePart wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

I like Maggie Smith as the grandmother, but do you think they have put in too much backstory that wasn't in the book?

Well, I don't want to know about his parents or the war. The story should be more insular as it was on the tv version.


I think I agree - but these adapters always want to add things.

I know I appeared to be critical of the ending of the tv version but I only meant it should have had a end of the holiday type ending to round it off... I liked the lack of things and people , it added to the atmos. The atmos in this version is being trampled on, for me.
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M1795537OCVirn

OneSparePart wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

OneSparePart wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

I like Maggie Smith as the grandmother, but do you think they have put in too much backstory that wasn't in the book?

Well, I don't want to know about his parents or the war. The story should be more insular as it was on the tv version.


I think I agree - but these adapters always want to add things.

I know I appeared to be critical of the ending of the tv version but I only meant it should have had a end of the holiday type ending to round it off... I liked the lack of things and people , it added to the atmos. The atmos in this version is being trampled on, for me.



They've introduced a few issues because that's what film makers do these days. Maybe trying to attract a more adult audience?
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OneSparePart
I think it pales in comparison to the old version. Very fraught.
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AnneArthur

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

OneSparePart wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

OneSparePart wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

I like Maggie Smith as the grandmother, but do you think they have put in too much backstory that wasn't in the book?

Well, I don't want to know about his parents or the war. The story should be more insular as it was on the tv version.


I think I agree - but these adapters always want to add things.

I know I appeared to be critical of the ending of the tv version but I only meant it should have had a end of the holiday type ending to round it off... I liked the lack of things and people , it added to the atmos. The atmos in this version is being trampled on, for me.



They've introduced a few issues because that's what film makers do these days. Maybe trying to attract a more adult audience?


I think they like more 'complicated' relationships - the grandmother's resentment of her daughter-in-law was not in the books. But Sefton really was a bully, as I remember.

And it's adapted by Julian Fellowes, isn't it? So he's going to add a lot of upstairs, downstairs stuff.
 
OneSparePart
Trouble with having all these extra people is they're all standing around doing nowt.
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M1795537OCVirn

OneSparePart wrote:

Trouble with having all these extra people is they're all standing aroind doing nowt.


That's the best spelling of around I've ever seen. And yes, it's a bit over-staffed. The story is getting lost in all the characters.
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AnneArthur

OneSparePart wrote:

Trouble with having all these extra people is they're all standing around doing nowt.


Which ones are standing around? I don't think the housekeeper is in the book - I think it was just Boggis, and fewer eighteenth-century servants got a mention, but it was a big house of the era, so they would have been there. The housekeeper is the only extra one, and she seems to be doing quite a lot.
 
OneSparePart

AnneArthur wrote:

OneSparePart wrote:

Trouble with having all these extra people is they're all standing around doing nowt.


Which ones are standing around? I don't think the housekeeper is in the book - I think it was just Boggis, and fewer eighteenth-century servants got a mention, but it was a big house of the era, so they would have been there. The housekeeper is the only extra one, and she seems to be doing quite a lot.

The ghostly flash mob servants
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AnneArthur

OneSparePart wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

OneSparePart wrote:

Trouble with having all these extra people is they're all standing around doing nowt.


Which ones are standing around? I don't think the housekeeper is in the book - I think it was just Boggis, and fewer eighteenth-century servants got a mention, but it was a big house of the era, so they would have been there. The housekeeper is the only extra one, and she seems to be doing quite a lot.

The ghostly flash mob servants


But an eighteenth-century house would have had servants.
 
M1795537OCVirn

AnneArthur wrote:

OneSparePart wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

OneSparePart wrote:

Trouble with having all these extra people is they're all standing around doing nowt.


Which ones are standing around? I don't think the housekeeper is in the book - I think it was just Boggis, and fewer eighteenth-century servants got a mention, but it was a big house of the era, so they would have been there. The housekeeper is the only extra one, and she seems to be doing quite a lot.

The ghostly flash mob servants


But an eighteenth-century house would have had servants.


Everyone needs them. Except rebels, of course. They become them.
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OneSparePart

AnneArthur wrote:

OneSparePart wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

OneSparePart wrote:

Trouble with having all these extra people is they're all standing around doing nowt.


Which ones are standing around? I don't think the housekeeper is in the book - I think it was just Boggis, and fewer eighteenth-century servants got a mention, but it was a big house of the era, so they would have been there. The housekeeper is the only extra one, and she seems to be doing quite a lot.

The ghostly flash mob servants


But an eighteenth-century house would have had servants.

They're ok when they are doing servanty things. Just look a bit surplus to requirements when they stood around doing naught.
Edited by OneSparePart on 29-08-2024 19:41
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OneSparePart
Pies were big in them days. It's like Magwich on the marsh.
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AnneArthur

OneSparePart wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

OneSparePart wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

OneSparePart wrote:

Trouble with having all these extra people is they're all standing around doing nowt.


Which ones are standing around? I don't think the housekeeper is in the book - I think it was just Boggis, and fewer eighteenth-century servants got a mention, but it was a big house of the era, so they would have been there. The housekeeper is the only extra one, and she seems to be doing quite a lot.

The ghostly flash mob servants


But an eighteenth-century house would have had servants.

They're ok when they are doing servanty things. Just look a bit surplus to requurements when they stood around doing naught.


Julian Fellowes servants always spend a lot of time chatting.
 
M1795537OCVirn
What a great put-down! Up yours, Mariah!
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AnneArthur

OneSparePart wrote:

Pies were big in them days. It's like Magwich on the marsh.


Pies are not what they were.
 
M1795537OCVirn
If people can walk through him, why can't he walk through walls?
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AnneArthur

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

If people can walk through him, why can't he walk through walls?


Because he doesn't believe he can.
 
M1795537OCVirn

AnneArthur wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

If people can walk through him, why can't he walk through walls?


Because he doesn't believe he can.


Good point.
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M1795537OCVirn
Oh, get on with it. Whatever it is you need to pay the debts,, it's hidden in the tower, surely?
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M1795537OCVirn
Great pyro work!
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OneSparePart
Harriet Walter in a sympathetic role.
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AnneArthur

OneSparePart wrote:

Harriet Walter in a sympathetic role.


Indeed.
 
M1795537OCVirn
or maybe the jewels/Vermeer is up the chimney?? He's going to find them and sort everything out, that much is obvious.
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OneSparePart
They're all standing around again!
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OneSparePart
If it's Xmas and the war is still on, why would the germans release POWs?
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M1795537OCVirn

OneSparePart wrote:

If it's Xmas and the war is still on, why would the germans release POWs?


Because they're losing the war.
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OneSparePart

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

OneSparePart wrote:

If it's Xmas and the war is still on, why would the germans release POWs?


Because they're losing the war.

They shot their prisoners ir abandoned them... but hey, ir's a small thing in this story
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OneSparePart
Maggie Smith is always good, in whatever role.
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M1795537OCVirn
Those pyjamas will never be the same again.
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M1795537OCVirn

OneSparePart wrote:

Maggie Smith is always good, in whatever role.


It's just effortless! (But not for her).
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AnneArthur
Oh gosh - an ambulance has just pulled up outside my house. I think it's for one of the houses over the way. I wonder what is happening?
 
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