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Big Finish: Tarrant
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Joe Dredd |
Posted on 18-02-2024 04:49
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Three stories set at different points in Tarrant's life. I wonder if we'll get a surprise appearance by Deeta Tarrant, given SP plays both roles. I assume the Kairopan job is off limits, not being a Terry Nation script. No sign of Colin Baker in the cast, so no 'first dealings with Bayban' story, unless it's through a henchman. |
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Deva |
Posted on 20-02-2024 22:46
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Delta Grade Posts: 87 Joined: 17.01.22 |
Intrigued by the news of this release.... hope we get the same for Del Grant.
"Time really is getting short, you know..."
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Paula |
Posted on 21-02-2024 21:07
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Three stories set at different points in Tarrant's life. I wonder if we'll get a surprise appearance by Deeta Tarrant, given SP plays both roles. I assume the Kairopan job is off limits, not being a Terry Nation script. No sign of Colin Baker in the cast, so no 'first dealings with Bayban' story, unless it's through a henchman. Joe- Big Finish has done a Del/Deeta/Dev story in Crossfire Part 3, called Kith and Kin by Christopher Cooper. It says and I quote, "The planet Corrolos is a safe haven for ex-oligarchs and retired royalty. So why is Tarrant insistent on going there, and what was the last wish of his dead brother Deeta?" And I too checked to see if there was going to be a story about the canon statement that Tarrant (Del) had met Bayban years before City at the Edge of the World. I'd love to have that meeting for an upcoming story! Resist the Host
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Hugbot |
Posted on 22-02-2024 09:01
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And I too checked to see if there was going to be a story about the canon statement that Tarrant (Del) had met Bayban years before City at the Edge of the World. I'd love to have that meeting for an upcoming story! I already did that two years ago: |
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Paula |
Posted on 22-02-2024 21:44
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Oh, Huggie, you are so funny!
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M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 29-05-2024 17:07
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It's almost here! Tarrant - the Trailer Listen to the trailer here:https://www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/...rrant-3080 "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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Joe Dredd |
Posted on 30-05-2024 08:06
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I really want to like these, but I am just left sucking my teeth and feeling like a curmudgeon every time. I suppose Deeta has to be played by someone else, so the characters are distinct when you only have voices to go by. SP could use his Tarrant voice (seeing as he uses his 'real' voice for Tarrant in these) but then we might get excited and think Deeta was Del. I'm not sure how I feel about someone else playing Servalan. I'm guessing these credits are 'man' and 'women' to avoid spoiling about Deeta and Servalan: Raj Ghatak (Man) Rosalyn Landor (Woman) ...but that's just a guess on my part. Otherwise, ponderous, laborious, overly emphasised phrasing ("clonemasters"), cliches ("rag-tag rebels"), speech patterns more current to today than what we heard in B7, etc. I'll buy it, of course. |
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Deva |
Posted on 30-05-2024 18:01
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Delta Grade Posts: 87 Joined: 17.01.22 |
I really want to like these, but I am just left sucking my teeth and feeling like a curmudgeon every time. I suppose Deeta has to be played by someone else, so the characters are distinct when you only have voices to go by. SP could use his Tarrant voice (seeing as he uses his 'real' voice for Tarrant in these) but then we might get excited and think Deeta was Del. I'm not sure how I feel about someone else playing Servalan. I'm guessing these credits are 'man' and 'women' to avoid spoiling about Deeta and Servalan: Raj Ghatak (Man) Rosalyn Landor (Woman) ...but that's just a guess on my part. Otherwise, ponderous, laborious, overly emphasised phrasing ("clonemasters", cliches ("rag-tag rebels", speech patterns more current to today than what we heard in B7, etc. I'll buy it, of course. I know exactly what you mean, I buy every Big Finish B7 release and am frequently disappointed. It does seem from the trailer that they have recast Servalan which I can't help but feel is a mistake. Perhaps they are testing the waters for further recastings... I certainly hope not. I would much rather have more Liberator Chronicles type audios read by the original cast members who are still with us. Having said that, there's still plenty of scope for full-cast adventures without recasting. Any number of stories could have been told about Tarrant without the need for Servalan to feature. "Time really is getting short, you know..."
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Joe Dredd |
Posted on 31-05-2024 08:10
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And I too checked to see if there was going to be a story about the canon statement that Tarrant (Del) had met Bayban years before City at the Edge of the World. I'd love to have that meeting for an upcoming story! I already did that two years ago: Not 'How Tarrant met Bayban' as being discussed, but a similar play on 'Butcher' from Snare, the B7 text adventure game (1993) [ - though this isn't a screenshot of the original but a ported version.] |
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M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 08-06-2024 17:33
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Worlds of Blake's 7: Tarrant My review of this new release from Big Finish is now available here https://www.blakes7online.com/article...cle_id=259 "You're not sulking, I hope?"
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Ulera |
Posted on 11-06-2024 07:56
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Delta Grade Posts: 10 Joined: 23.01.22 |
I really want to like these, but I am just left sucking my teeth and feeling like a curmudgeon every time. I suppose Deeta has to be played by someone else, so the characters are distinct when you only have voices to go by. SP could use his Tarrant voice (seeing as he uses his 'real' voice for Tarrant in these) but then we might get excited and think Deeta was Del. I'm not sure how I feel about someone else playing Servalan. I'm guessing these credits are 'man' and 'women' to avoid spoiling about Deeta and Servalan: Raj Ghatak (Man) Rosalyn Landor (Woman) ...but that's just a guess on my part. Otherwise, ponderous, laborious, overly emphasised phrasing ("clonemasters", cliches ("rag-tag rebels", speech patterns more current to today than what we heard in B7, etc. I'll buy it, of course. I thought BF had made a statement a few years back that they wouldn't be recasting the main characters - I suppose they can't resist the kerrching - disappointing. Personally I can't listen to anyone but the original actors in those main roles. |
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Deva |
Posted on 11-06-2024 09:41
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Delta Grade Posts: 87 Joined: 17.01.22 |
I really want to like these, but I am just left sucking my teeth and feeling like a curmudgeon every time. I suppose Deeta has to be played by someone else, so the characters are distinct when you only have voices to go by. SP could use his Tarrant voice (seeing as he uses his 'real' voice for Tarrant in these) but then we might get excited and think Deeta was Del. I'm not sure how I feel about someone else playing Servalan. I'm guessing these credits are 'man' and 'women' to avoid spoiling about Deeta and Servalan: Raj Ghatak (Man) Rosalyn Landor (Woman) ...but that's just a guess on my part. Otherwise, ponderous, laborious, overly emphasised phrasing ("clonemasters", cliches ("rag-tag rebels", speech patterns more current to today than what we heard in B7, etc. I'll buy it, of course. I thought BF had made a statement a few years back that they wouldn't be recasting the main characters - I suppose they can't resist the kerrching - disappointing. Personally I can't listen to anyone but the original actors in those main roles. I listened to the first story yesterday and while it does feature Servalan, they haven't technically recast, as it's someone else pretending to be Servalan. I want to avoid spoilers so I don't want to say anymore here. "Time really is getting short, you know..."
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OracVZen |
Posted on 11-06-2024 09:50
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Alpha Grade Posts: 5740 Joined: 18.01.22 |
I really want to like these, but I am just left sucking my teeth and feeling like a curmudgeon every time. I suppose Deeta has to be played by someone else, so the characters are distinct when you only have voices to go by. SP could use his Tarrant voice (seeing as he uses his 'real' voice for Tarrant in these) but then we might get excited and think Deeta was Del. I'm not sure how I feel about someone else playing Servalan. I'm guessing these credits are 'man' and 'women' to avoid spoiling about Deeta and Servalan: Raj Ghatak (Man) Rosalyn Landor (Woman) ...but that's just a guess on my part. Otherwise, ponderous, laborious, overly emphasised phrasing ("clonemasters", cliches ("rag-tag rebels", speech patterns more current to today than what we heard in B7, etc. I'll buy it, of course. I thought BF had made a statement a few years back that they wouldn't be recasting the main characters - I suppose they can't resist the kerrching - disappointing. Personally I can't listen to anyone but the original actors in those main roles. I listened to the first story yesterday and while it does feature Servalan, they haven't technically recast, as it's someone else pretending to be Servalan. I want to avoid spoilers so I don't want to say anymore here. I agree,just a karaaaching ploy BFP do that alot,DR who etc, I would rather they don't use stuff with a covers, implied story's of original casts when the are dead. I prefer original characters from the original series. I know not possible now for the most part, but I will listen as I love audio books, I just wish they could use a new character in similar vein, or even a daughter,son etc plays the parts so Avons son, daughter,Rog son, daughter,Servalan etc . And reference original cast in the conversation. More respectful, a nod homage etc. I plan to live forever,or die trying.
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M1795537OCVirn |
Posted on 11-06-2024 10:18
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I thought I made it clear in my review that they didn't recast anyone (other than Yasmin, who's been playing Dayna for a while now) and ESPECIALLY not Servalan. A 'nod' and 'homage' is exactly what they were doing. When you hear the whole story, you'll understand it. Don't worry, if anyone even tried to recast Servalan, I'd be round there...
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
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OracVZen |
Posted on 11-06-2024 10:26
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Alpha Grade Posts: 5740 Joined: 18.01.22 |
I thought I made it clear in my review that they didn't recast anyone (other than Yasmin, who's been playing Dayna for a while now) and ESPECIALLY not Servalan. A 'nod' and 'homage' is exactly what they were doing. When you hear the whole story, you'll understand it. Don't worry, if anyone even tried to recast Servalan, I'd be round there... AHH cool, thank you M179, and yes I bet you be straight round there I plan to live forever,or die trying.
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Doriansplanethopper69 |
Posted on 12-06-2024 16:44
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Hi. I am enjoying listening to the new Tarrant audio cd. It came this week. I have listened to two discs so far. Lots of nods to the series on there, with kairos and jarvik mentioned so far. Tarrant asks the dream makers to deepen his brother's voice during the story playback, so even though SP plays both parts it sounds different. Very clever really. Good stuff. Anyone else enjoying it too? 😄 |
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Joe Dredd |
Posted on 05-08-2024 04:19
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I've made a start on this. Tarrant is coming across as part Rimmer from Red Dwarf, part Beau Geste. |
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Joe Dredd |
Posted on 05-08-2024 10:30
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Oh no, curmudgeonly Joe is crying in his beer again. "The Authorised Version" has a couple of good ideas but overall felt like character assassination of both Del and Deeta Tarrant. It didn't help to hear James Goss at the end, describing Tarrant as being like Han Solo , if he'd been an accountant. And should it have been Plaxton fleeing the Institute, not Egrorian? Can we even use Egrorian, seeing as he's a Robert Holmes creation? It can't be a different Egrorian -- how many can there be running off with golden-haired striplings? And while it shoehorns in too many references, it doesn't ever sound like it has the right vocab for B7. Watching B7 you hear its interesting phraseology - telemetric band sweeps and molecular shift detectors, etc. In some of these BF stories it's as unimaginative as moon, planet, booster, blaster. And don't get me started on the talking computer! I think too, in a biographical piece like this, BF should really have considered the type of society and people the Federation creates. Drugged, and spied on, with restricted travel, armed troopers on the streets, abandoned on penal colonies, mind control operations, placing families in slavery, turning people into mutoids, etc. It really does explain some of the damaged, untrusting, and ruthless people we see in the show. On to "Behemoth" and argh, we are totally back in Star Trek territory. "Officer on the bridge!", "Belay that!", "Aye, sir", "shore leave", and a mutoid who so far comes across as being Spock with a built-in tricorder. Both B7 and ST are unique, and it would be much better to preserve that, rather than fold one into the other and reinforce sneers that B7 is a poor man's ST. The B7 analogy falls towards the RAF side - flight decks, Bomber Command, etc - not the navy. It's a real point of difference and I don't think BF lack the wit or ability to do a really good job coming up with a believable and fitting set of B7-like terms. How about "Officer on deck" BF team? I could live with that. And speaking of B7 terminology, I've got nothing against sergeants, but why can't the Sgt be a Section Leader? |
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Joe Dredd |
Posted on 08-08-2024 01:24
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There's lots of lines in this that seem like nods to other things. I'm sure the trooper hitting his head on the lintel is a reference to the opening rebel fight in Star Wars, and the talk of action elsewhere reminded me of Roy Batty's speech in Blade Runner. Even Tarrant gets a Blake-y "Indulge me" and another line very similar to Travis's "Yes, well, I'm always grateful for a rough analogy" line in S-L-D. There was something else as well but I've forgotten. Listening to these in the car means I can't really take notes. I wouldn't be surprised if the borrowing from elsewhere in B7 wasn't deliberate. There's a couple of character names that sound appropriately B7-ish, because they are very similar to/based on names in the show. On the positive side, it's good to have a story where the mutoid is male. |
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