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The Prisoner rewatch episodes 16-17
AnneArthur

trevor travis wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

So was he number 1 then?


Didn't you see? Who was behind the monkey mask.

Some sort of metaphor about being your own worst enemy.


Or self-censorship?

I thought it was him behind the monkey mask, but couldn't be sure.
 
trevor travis
OK, we normally rush away, but what did everyone make of that?
Vote Og.
 
OneSparePart

Lorna wrote:

trevor travis wrote:

Lorna wrote:

trevor travis wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

So was he number 1 then?


Didn't you see? Who was behind the monkey mask.

no


Patrick McGoohan.

oh

Might have been better if it had been Gooey McPatrick
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trevor travis
And thus it ends as it began...
Vote Og.
 
Lorna
Disappointing
I look behind me, what do I see? A pair of golden wings seem to be attached to me.
 
AnneArthur

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

that's three weeks they've worn that frilly shirt.


Got to get their money's worth out of it!
 
OneSparePart
I think I would have preferred a little bit more realism. And I like a bit of lunacy.
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M1795537OCVirn
After the first few episodes, it started being too predictable for me. This is what comes of giving one man the power to create something from the depths of his subconscious!
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
trevor travis
This is the hardest one of all to mark but...

Arrival 9
The Chimes Of Big Ben 10
A. B. and C. 7
Free For All 8
The Schizoid Man 9
The General 7
Many Happy Returns 10
Dence Of The Dead 5
Checkmate 10
Hammer Into Anvil 9
It's Your Funeral 8
A Change Of Mind 7
Do Not Forsake Me Oh My Darling 4
Living In Harmony 3
The Girl Who Was Death 10
Once Upon A Time 6
Fall Out 7

I like bits of it, including the No 1 reveal (had to be him really, didn't it?), but there's other bits that could be so much better.
Vote Og.
 
AnneArthur
I'm still watching.
 
M1795537OCVirn
Glad I watched it, though.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
trevor travis

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

After the first few episodes, it started being too predictable for me. This is what comes of giving one man the power to create something from the depths of his subconscious!


It caused so much controversy, but McGoohan had to leave the country for a bit. He couldn't go out in the street for people grilling him about the final episode!
Vote Og.
 
Lorna
I think 7 is too high! Just my opinion
I look behind me, what do I see? A pair of golden wings seem to be attached to me.
 
AnneArthur
Were major roads ever that empty?
 
M1795537OCVirn

AnneArthur wrote:

Were major roads ever that empty?


Yep.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
trevor travis

Lorna wrote:

I think 7 is too high! Just my opinion


It's 6+1. Seemed appropriate Grin
Vote Og.
 
OneSparePart

Lorna wrote:

I think 7 is too high! Just my opinion

Lorna steps out from behind her hollyhocks Smile
Silflay hraka, u embleer rah!
 
AnneArthur
OK, I've finished. Something about being imprisoned by your own mind?
 
Lorna

OneSparePart wrote:

Lorna wrote:

I think 7 is too high! Just my opinion

Lorna steps out from behind her hollyhocks Smile

Yes I do occasionally
I look behind me, what do I see? A pair of golden wings seem to be attached to me.
 
M1795537OCVirn

trevor travis wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

After the first few episodes, it started being too predictable for me. This is what comes of giving one man the power to create something from the depths of his subconscious!


It caused so much controversy, but McGoohan had to leave the country for a bit. He couldn't go out in the street for people grilling him about the final episode!


I think there's a huge difference between the episodes before he had the break to the ones after it. Almost as if he'd run out of (sensible) ideas and was glad to get to the end.
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
trevor travis

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

Glad I watched it, though.


There are some cracking episodes... goes a bit off the rails at the end. Although I will always love The Girl Who Was Death... that was almost turned into a 90-minute special.
Vote Og.
 
Lorna

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

trevor travis wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

After the first few episodes, it started being too predictable for me. This is what comes of giving one man the power to create something from the depths of his subconscious!


It caused so much controversy, but McGoohan had to leave the country for a bit. He couldn't go out in the street for people grilling him about the final episode!


I think there's a huge difference between the episodes before he had the break to the ones after it. Almost as if he'd run out of (sensible) ideas and was glad to get to the end.

I think you have a point
I look behind me, what do I see? A pair of golden wings seem to be attached to me.
 
OneSparePart
I still rate it as one of the best tv series I have ever seen. As much as some of the eps annoy, it does challenge your thinking
Silflay hraka, u embleer rah!
 
AnneArthur
I found the first part of that pretentious, but the last 10 minutes or so were oddly exhilarating. Although that he himself was number 1 was kind of unsurprising.
 
M1795537OCVirn

OneSparePart wrote:

I still rate it as one of the best tv series I have ever seen. As much as some of the eps annoy, it does challenge your thinking


Not sure whether to laugh or cry at that comment!
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
Lorna
Well whatever you watch next week I cant join you as it is Craft Club.
I look behind me, what do I see? A pair of golden wings seem to be attached to me.
 
AnneArthur
It could of course be a metaphor for retirement . . .

Perhaps that is just me being bitter. A friend has taken early retirement - I wish I could afford to!
 
trevor travis

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

trevor travis wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

After the first few episodes, it started being too predictable for me. This is what comes of giving one man the power to create something from the depths of his subconscious!


It caused so much controversy, but McGoohan had to leave the country for a bit. He couldn't go out in the street for people grilling him about the final episode!


I think there's a huge difference between the episodes before he had the break to the ones after it. Almost as if he'd run out of (sensible) ideas and was glad to get to the end.


I don't think it helped when George Markstein departed and wasn't around to write/script edit. He was the one who was a proper writer... and always in the scene with McGoohan at the start of each episode when No 6 resigns!
Vote Og.
 
AnneArthur
I preferred the earlier episodes, I think. But maybe that's just because I like Portmeiron.
 
OneSparePart

AnneArthur wrote:

I found the first part of that pretentious, but the last 10 minutes or so were oddly exhilarating. Although that he himself was number 1 was kind of unsurprising.

Anyone else would have been either a let down, commonplace or would need further explanation.
Silflay hraka, u embleer rah!
 
M1795537OCVirn
OK, let's send TT off to his Speedway season with a hearty thank you for the Prisoner, and try to decide what to watch next. Lorna - any ideas?
"You're not sulking, I hope?"
 
AnneArthur

Lorna wrote:

Well whatever you watch next week I cant join you as it is Craft Club.


I won't be around next week either.
 
AnneArthur

OneSparePart wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

I found the first part of that pretentious, but the last 10 minutes or so were oddly exhilarating. Although that he himself was number 1 was kind of unsurprising.

Anyone else would have been either a let down, commonplace or would need further explanation.


Still think the real number 1 was the cat.
 
OneSparePart

AnneArthur wrote:

It could of course be a metaphor for retirement . . .

Perhaps that is just me being bitter. A friend has taken early retirement - I wish I could afford to!

Hollyhocks! I hope not. I want a bit of peace and quiet when I hand my notice in....
Silflay hraka, u embleer rah!
 
trevor travis

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

OK, let's send TT off to his Speedway season with a hearty thank you for the Prisoner, and try to decide what to watch next. Lorna - any ideas?


Thanks! Hope the Prisoner was an okay choice, despite the way it ends. IMO earlier episodes such as The Chimes Of Big Ben, Many Happy Returns and Checkmate are the Prisoner working so well to its format... before anything goes in the final 5 episodes or so!
Vote Og.
 
OneSparePart

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

OK, let's send TT off to his Speedway season with a hearty thank you for the Prisoner, and try to decide what to watch next. Lorna - any ideas?

Looks like we have a couple of weeks to come up with ideas but here is one...some classic sf films?
Silflay hraka, u embleer rah!
 
trevor travis

OneSparePart wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

It could of course be a metaphor for retirement . . .

Perhaps that is just me being bitter. A friend has taken early retirement - I wish I could afford to!

Hollyhocks! I hope not. I want a bit of peace and quiet when I hand my notice in....


And not Leo McKern yelling at you? Grin Grin Grin
Vote Og.
 
AnneArthur

trevor travis wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

OK, let's send TT off to his Speedway season with a hearty thank you for the Prisoner, and try to decide what to watch next. Lorna - any ideas?


Thanks! Hope the Prisoner was an okay choice, despite the way it ends. IMO earlier episodes such as The Chimes Of Big Ben, Many Happy Returns and Checkmate are the Prisoner working so well to its format... before anything goes in the final 5 episodes or so!


Oh yes, I thoroughly enjoyed it.
 
trevor travis

OneSparePart wrote:

AnneArthur wrote:

It could of course be a metaphor for retirement . . .

Perhaps that is just me being bitter. A friend has taken early retirement - I wish I could afford to!

Hollyhocks! I hope not. I want a bit of peace and quiet when I hand my notice in....


And I was expecting Hollyhocks to be said at some point during that final episode Grin Grin Grin
Vote Og.
 
OneSparePart

trevor travis wrote:

M1795537OCVirn wrote:

OK, let's send TT off to his Speedway season with a hearty thank you for the Prisoner, and try to decide what to watch next. Lorna - any ideas?


Thanks! Hope the Prisoner was an okay choice, despite the way it ends. IMO earlier episodes such as The Chimes Of Big Ben, Many Happy Returns and Checkmate are the Prisoner working so well to its format... before anything goes in the final 5 episodes or so!

I still love it, despite the moaning! I won't leave it so long before I rewatch it. I want to get some familiarity with it. (Still looking for answers).
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